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  • Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post
    Anyone? I want to see the Dayton game again. It was fierce in the second half.
    Anyone know?

    #ChokingChickens

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    • cbssports.com
      bottom of page clip on watch live games,
      click on teams
      pick shocks
      pick game
      enjoy

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      • looked again, it might just be a recap. sorry.
        have you looked on youtube?

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        • Originally posted by Pigman View Post
          looked again, it might just be a recap. sorry.
          have you looked on youtube?
          It's been a few days. I'll try again.

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          • Students at the University of Kentucky did not take the 75-73 Elite Eight loss to North Carolina so well Sunday evening.

            WARNING: VIDEOS CONTAIN FOUL LANGUAGE Students at the University of Kentucky did not take the 75-73 Elite Eight loss to North Carolina so well Sunday evening. Videos on Twitter surfaced shortly aft…

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            • Originally posted by Shocker Mama View Post
              Students at the University of Kentucky did not take the 75-73 Elite Eight loss to North Carolina so well Sunday evening.

              http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/co...icle-1.3009991
              Hmm. I always thought that was a West Virginia & Oakland Raider fan thing. Guess I was wrong.
              Its a good landing if you can walk away, its a great landing if the plane can be reused the next day.

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              • I've seen soooo many salty UK fans on twitter. Many of them calling for a review of officiating and asking national writers to write about it.

                I wonder if they realize that if they review the officiating of the UK games, that UK doesn't make it out of the round of 32 with a correct whistle ... Oh wait, of course they don't, they don't want a fair whistle, they want a biased UK whistle.

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                • Still cannot believe the missed goal tend on Frankamp's layup...

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                  • I still can't believe it's not getting the publicity of the Northwestern goaltend. Other than the obvious P5/NW/ESPN connections.

                    On another note, during this game there were multiple breaks, it seemed like typically after WSU was starting to make a run, where the referees just stopped the game for a few extra seconds. I don't have any specific times, but I don't remember the announcers commenting on why the break was happening and the camera wouldn't pan out so we could see what was happening. It wasn't a dead ball until the referees decided it was. I know at one point, Kentucky made some substitutions BECAUSE of the break. I didn't see it happen in any other game. My sister (Creighton alum) even commented on it. Any idea what was happening to cause those stoppages?

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                    • Originally posted by ShockMe300 View Post
                      I still can't believe it's not getting the publicity of the Northwestern goaltend. Other than the obvious P5/NW/ESPN connections.
                      If memory serves, the UK goaltend was in the first half. The Gonzaga one was in more obviously crucial minutes.

                      Also, as bad as the UK one was, the Gonzaga one was completely egregious. I don't understand how the refs didn't notice it during live play.

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                      • Originally posted by jdshock View Post
                        If memory serves, the UK goaltend was in the first half. The Gonzaga one was in more obviously crucial minutes.

                        Also, as bad as the UK one was, the Gonzaga one was completely egregious. I don't understand how the refs didn't notice it during live play.
                        And again, you don't know how the rest of the game would have played out. That's my caution when reacting to calls like that. A lot of times teams play differently later on in the game because of the score.

                        That said, I have no idea how they missed that call. They got the goaltending call right later on when Landry scored and Adebayo hit the ball after it hit the backboard. That was less obvious than Frankamp's layup.
                        "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                        • Originally posted by jdshock View Post
                          The Gonzaga one was in more obviously crucial minutes.
                          So much wrong with this.

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                          • Originally posted by Cdizzle View Post
                            So much wrong with this.
                            What? How?

                            I've posted on here that I believe the goaltending call is the difference maker, all else held equal. But I hope you agree with the logic that a blown call in the first half appears to be less crucial than a blown call on the final possession. If a game is tight in the first half, and it ends up being a blow out, you can't blame the loss on the call. Because of that, no one remembers first half blown calls outside of the fanbase that was hurt by the call.

                            As an observer with no dog in the Gonzaga/Northwestern fight, I knew immediately that the goaltending call was going to have an impact on the outcome (even before the coach got the T). Casual observers of the WSU/UK game did not have the same, immediate reaction to the blown call because it was in the first half.

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                            • Originally posted by jdshock View Post
                              What? How?

                              I've posted on here that I believe the goaltending call is the difference maker, all else held equal. But I hope you agree with the logic that a blown call in the first half appears to be less crucial than a blown call on the final possession. If a game is tight in the first half, and it ends up being a blow out, you can't blame the loss on the call. Because of that, no one remembers first half blown calls outside of the fanbase that was hurt by the call.

                              As an observer with no dog in the Gonzaga/Northwestern fight, I knew immediately that the goaltending call was going to have an impact on the outcome (even before the coach got the T). Casual observers of the WSU/UK game did not have the same, immediate reaction to the blown call because it was in the first half.
                              My guess is he's meaning that fact that points are points. Whether you should have had 2 extra points in the first half, or 2 extra in the last 2 minutes. It still affects the outcome. Should be reviewable no matter when it happens.

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                              • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                                My guess is he's meaning that fact that points are points. Whether you should have had 2 extra points in the first half, or 2 extra in the last 2 minutes. It still affects the outcome. Should be reviewable no matter when it happens.
                                OP asks why it's not getting national attention like the Northwestern one was. I state that it's not in people's memory because it occurred in less obviously crucial minutes. Even if points are points and every minute is crucial, first half blown calls are less obviously crucial because there is still the potential for a blow out or something that would cause the call to have no impact on the final outcome.

                                I'm clearly not arguing that it didn't affect the outcome. I've said a couple times now that I do think it affected the outcome. I'm just saying that this might not be a P5 bias thing. This might actually just be that people don't even remember the call.

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