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    This does not look good for Shaq. Some teams in the MVC may never get a perimeter shot off if traveling is called like this suggests. It looks like it will be very difficult to use trapping defenses with these "verticality" interpretations.

    "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
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    I don't like it. Hopefully there aren't any over zealous refs that call 65 fouls in a game.
    "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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    • #3
      We need to bring in JT Durley to teach the big men how to play "matador" defense.

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        Couple points, all those plays on the perimeter during the travelling section of the video.. yea, they are travels for sure. But, they are tough to catch in full speed, which is probably why so many of them get missed. Slow the replay down and they are easy to see.

        Understand the issues with the trapping defenses, but it is possible to play defense without being so nose to nose with a player that you can look down their throat. Trap defenses can still work fine, just have the defense take a step back.

        Like any new rules change, expect it to be called inconsistently for the first few weeks of the season while all the officials adjust to the changes. By conference play, everybody should be on the same page. I say should. Regardless, it is still up to the players to adjust to the way the game is being called on that given night.

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          Originally posted by shockerfanmas View Post
          Couple points, all those plays on the perimeter during the travelling section of the video.. yea, they are travels for sure. But, they are tough to catch in full speed, which is probably why so many of them get missed. Slow the replay down and they are easy to see.

          Understand the issues with the trapping defenses, but it is possible to play defense without being so nose to nose with a player that you can look down their throat. Trap defenses can still work fine, just have the defense take a step back.

          Like any new rules change, expect it to be called inconsistently for the first few weeks of the season while all the officials adjust to the changes. By conference play, everybody should be on the same page. I say should. Regardless, it is still up to the players to adjust to the way the game is being called on that given night.
          If the defender takes a step back on the trap and that allows the ballhandler to step through on the dribble. Very small margin of error for the defender(s).
          "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
          ---------------------------------------
          Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
          "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

          A physician called into a radio show and said:
          "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shockerfanmas View Post
            Like any new rules change, expect it to be called inconsistently for the first few weeks of the season while all the officials adjust to the changes. By conference play, everybody should be on the same page. I say should. Regardless, it is still up to the players to adjust to the way the game is being called on that given night.
            Not sure it really makes any difference what the rules are. Obtaining uniformity and consistency is a worthy objective but rarely, if ever, achieved. Adjusting to how the game is being called will probably always remain a part of the game as long as human beings serve as officials.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
              If the defender takes a step back on the trap and that allows the ballhandler to step through on the dribble. Very small margin of error for the defender(s).
              If the trap is tight enough to begin with, taking a step back doesn't matter. I've seen several traps that were executed perfectly where the offensive player had room to pivot, but not dribble through. It's just all about how the trap is set and how the coach teaches his/her traps. The point is, good defense can be played without having to be right up in a persons grill. I think it's great the NCAA is trying to go away from this physical, unnecessary kind of defense.

              Now, will it change anything? Probably not. I expect you will have your fair share of rugby matches this season, and you will have your fair share of games where just blowing on a player is a foul. 1972Shocker is right, as long as there are human officials, there will be human error. I wouldn't have it any other way. As far as instant replay goes, I like the systems that we have in baseball and football. You have so many challenges and that's it. There's no reason why you couldn't do the same thing in basketball. Official calls a foul that clearly wasn't a foul? Challenge it. 2 challenges per half, no matter what. Lose the challenge, lose a time out. Not that it would make any fans any happier, but at least it would be something. Otherwise, let the game play out, and force the players to adjust.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
                If the defender takes a step back on the trap and that allows the ballhandler to step through on the dribble. Very small margin of error for the defender(s).
                The video presentation seemed to imply that the offensive player needs to be able to extend his upper arms within his vertical cylinder (perhaps they should name this the Cone of Verticality in honor of Maxwell Smart). I would guess most college players upper arms are around 18" to 24". If violated the official should exclaim "Missed It By That Much" and show with his hands the distance invaded. If a coach objects the official would respond "Would You Believe......."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                  Not sure it really makes any difference what the rules are. Obtaining uniformity and consistency is a worthy objective but rarely, if ever, achieved. Adjusting to how the game is being called will probably always remain a part of the game as long as human beings serve as officials.
                  Very true statement, and it can be said for all sports. That's part of why I love it. I love to see the disagreements between coaches and officials (I really miss those nose to nose, heated arguments in MLB baseball since they instituted instant replay), however, most coaches and fans tend to get out of line pretty easily. Human officials will have human error, that's just how it is. See my above post for what I think could be done to institute instant replay in college basketball regarding fouls/non-fouls.

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