Who is your Starting Point Guard - "the #1 Position"?

[ShockdaWorld]

Hey ShockdaWorld: I have read that South Carolina State is predicted as a 16 seed in the NCAA tourney this year. Probably not just a cup cake. I have also read that Long Beach State is picked to win the Mountain West this year. May not be just a walk over. However, Tulsa who lost some 8 seniors and Maryland Eastern Shore our 3rd and 4th games I believe should be easier than the first two games. Me thinks we should start our best point guard, who ever that is, and not walkons. Just sayin my say.

I was talking about Augusta and SCSU. 16th seed (normally) just means that they will win a conference tournament that many have never heard of. If JRS couldn't do pretty well against them after three plus years in the program, I'd be a little disappointed. I don't expect LBSU to be a push over.

[Aargh]

Conner will never be the PG that Fred was, however he should be able to perform similar to Joe Ragland or Clevin Hannah in that he can run the offense, limit turn overs, and shoot a high percentage.

He should be able to perform similar to those guys if you don't look at Ragland and Hannah's speed, quickness, athleticism, ability to drive to the basket, or their nasty abilities on D.

Frankamp doesn't turn the ball over and he does have a decent FG% most places other than CKA. I'm not anticipating any 50+ 3-pt. %'s from Frankamp.

With a 30-second shot clock and no PG's with any proven ability to break down a defense, Marshall may have to adjust his system and game-planning a bit.

[ShockdaWorld]

LMAO. The hate is real.

[shock]

Hello shock: I haven't seen Frankamp penetrate and dish the ball for assists sufficiently to believe he is a point guard. Didn't think he was when he was at KU, and suspected that is why he transferred. I read after he transferred that WSU coaches had him working on his dribbling, and that he had put on some muscle weight, so maybe so now starting a new year, but I haven't seen him do so in the past and haven't seen him yet.

Rags 2.0. And an even better shooter, which is saying something.

[WstateU]

LMAO. The hate is real.

[pie n eye]

LMAO. The hate is real.

It's odd. But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[Dan]

He should be able to perform similar to those guys if you don't look at Ragland and Hannah's speed, quickness, athleticism, ability to drive to the basket, or their nasty abilities on D.

Frankamp doesn't turn the ball over and he does have a decent FG% most places other than CKA. I'm not anticipating any 50+ 3-pt. %'s from Frankamp.

With a 30-second shot clock and no PG's with any proven ability to break down a defense, Marshall may have to adjust his system and game-planning a bit.

Hannah was not fast or overly athletic, he was just steady and a good shooter. He and Ragland were totally different types. Frankamp reminds me more of Hannah than Ragland.

[Cdizzle]

LMAO. The hate is real.

Since when is pointing out facts "hate." Frankamp isn't a freshman any more. And he isn't new to the program either. I think it's fair to say his collegiate performance to date is underwhelming. I also think it's clear there is still some untapped potential there, but at some point he has to actually do it on the court when the bright lights are on.

Ask yourself: If you weren't hyped about Frankamp because he was (a) a Wichita kid and (b) highly ranked by recruiting services out of high school, based on his collegiate results thus far, would you be excited about him taking over at PG at WSU? Would you think that had a high probability of resulting in a Top 25 team?

[Bluzrover]

This spot is Frankamp's to lose - and I think at least some on here probably are acutely aware that I don't tend to hype Frankamp.

I agree with this although I'm troubled by the fact that Marshall hasn't uttered Conner's name in quite some time, especially one of his last statements about the lack of leadership on this year's team or the fact that no leader has clearly emerged.

Now that being said, the leader of the team doesn't necessarily mean it has to be the PG. We've been spoiled. But I was really hoping Conner had or will step up to be a leader on this team. We know that 3G is a master at communicating so his statements may be taking all of this into consideration.

[ShockdaWorld]

Since when is pointing out facts "hate." Frankamp isn't a freshman any more. And he isn't new to the program either. I think it's fair to say his collegiate performance to date is underwhelming. I also think it's clear there is still some untapped potential there, but at some point he has to actually do it on the court when the bright lights are on.

Ask yourself: If you weren't hyped about Frankamp because he was (a) a Wichita kid and (b) highly ranked by recruiting services out of high school, based on his collegiate results thus far, would you be excited about him taking over at PG at WSU? Would you think that had a high probability of resulting in a Top 25 team?

I never saw the kid play in high school other than highlight videos, so that has nothing to do with it. When he is not included as even an option at point guard when two walk-ons (one that is a freshman) are, yah, that's not facts. That's hate. I don't know if CF will start or if Daishon will or if someone else will. Only fact is FVV is not coming back, and some people think the next guy that doesn't measure up to him (or Joe or Clevin or Matt or whichever) isn't going to be able to do the job. So many flavors, why choose salty? I'm not "hyped" about Frankamp. I'm hyped about this team and believe that whoever gets the job will have earned it.

[Cdizzle]

I agree that I have no idea why this poll doesn't include the Top 3 most likely candidates for the job. But that did not appear to be what you were responding to. Perhaps it was.

[pie n eye]

Since when is pointing out facts "hate." Frankamp isn't a freshman any more. And he isn't new to the program either. I think it's fair to say his collegiate performance to date is underwhelming. I also think it's clear there is still some untapped potential there, but at some point he has to actually do it on the court when the bright lights are on.

Ask yourself: If you weren't hyped about Frankamp because he was (a) a Wichita kid and (b) highly ranked by recruiting services out of high school, based on his collegiate results thus far, would you be excited about him taking over at PG at WSU? Would you think that had a high probability of resulting in a Top 25 team?

Does he even have a full season of collegiate games under his belt? Played sparingly as a freshman at KU (but also *almost* single handedly saved their ass in an NCAA tournament game. Played half a season last year at WSU behind two of the best guards in WSU history. Sure he wasn't as aggressive as I would have liked but he definitely had games where he was incredibly efficient in limited minutes.

I don't think it makes sense throw out what he did in high school and at the international games and judge him on such a small sample. Even if I did I still saw enough from him last year and in Canada that it's not a stretch to imagine a season where he improves and is one of the key pieces on the team this year.

Based on all the information availabe to me Frankamp is one of the players I'm excited about this year.

[wufan]

Since when is pointing out facts "hate." Frankamp isn't a freshman any more. And he isn't new to the program either. I think it's fair to say his collegiate performance to date is underwhelming. I also think it's clear there is still some untapped potential there, but at some point he has to actually do it on the court when the bright lights are on.

Ask yourself: If you weren't hyped about Frankamp because he was (a) a Wichita kid and (b) highly ranked by recruiting services out of high school, based on his collegiate results thus far, would you be excited about him taking over at PG at WSU? Would you think that had a high probability of resulting in a Top 25 team?

I wouldn't call his performance underwhelming. I would say he was a good back up Fred and Ron.

[wufan]

Hannah was not fast or overly athletic, he was just steady and a good shooter. He and Ragland were totally different types. Frankamp reminds me more of Hannah than Ragland.

I tend to agree with this sentiment.

[wufan]

21 MPG, 7 points, 2.8 assists, 31% 3, 88% FT - Joe Ragland Junior stats

17 mpg, 6.1 points, 1.5 assists, 35% 3, 89% FT - Frankamp sophomore stats