Canada Trip

[Dan]

Please come back and give full game summaries if you plan on attending. We're anxious to hear about our new guys and our point guard play.

[ShockdaWorld]

Hello everyone. My name is Doug and I am a Carleton Ravens season ticket holder. I am looking forward to watching your Shockers play Carleton when they visit Ottawa in August.

Carleton has won the last six Canadian university basketball championships (same type of championship as your Final Four) and 12 of the last 14 championships.

The Ravens traditionally play pre-season exhibition games against NCAA D1 teams both at home and away. Here is a summary of those games over the previous years:

http://cishoops.ca/history/cisncaadetail.php?Team=Carleton

If you have any questions about Carleton Ravens basketball, please ask.

I hope that some of you will be able to make the trip to Canada.

Thanks a lot for the information. Looks like it should be a beneficial trip. Do you know much about the other teams we will be playing up there?

[_kai_]

Hello everyone. My name is Doug and I am a Carleton Ravens season ticket holder. I am looking forward to watching your Shockers play Carleton when they visit Ottawa in August.

Carleton has won the last six Canadian university basketball championships (same type of championship as your Final Four) and 12 of the last 14 championships.

The Ravens traditionally play pre-season exhibition games against NCAA D1 teams both at home and away. Here is a summary of those games over the previous years:

http://cishoops.ca/history/cisncaadetail.php?Team=Carleton

If you have any questions about Carleton Ravens basketball, please ask.

I hope that some of you will be able to make the trip to Canada.

@Rally Doug:, thanks for stopping by. I'll reiterate the others sentiment and ask that you come back and give us a little insight into the game when it happens. Thanks again.

[shockmonster]

From past results and our lost players with experience, Carleton should be the favorite. It will be nice to play top notch competition in Canada.

[1972Shocker]

From past results and our lost players with experience, Carleton should be the favorite. It will be nice to play top notch competition in Canada.

I have no idea how Carleton will approach the game but I have a feeling that winning the game will be more of a focus for them then it will be for the Shocks. Not saying the Shocks won't want to win the game but I think player evaluation and development will be the main focus of this trip for 3G with winning a nice bonus if it happens. That's just my guess.

[Dan]

I have no idea how Carleton will approach the game but I have a feeling that winning the game will be more of a focus for them then it will be for the Shocks. Not saying the Shocks won't want to win the game but I think player evaluation and development will be the main focus of this trip for 3G with winning a nice bonus if it happens. That's just my guess.

I think you underestimate the competitive nature of 3G. I have no doubt he wants to test out the new guys, but he also needs them to see "how the big boys play".

[1972Shocker]

I think you underestimate the competitive nature of 3G. I have no doubt he wants to test out the new guys, but he also needs them to see "how the big boys play".

No I don't underestimate that all. But I know he understands the big picture and that a win in an exhibition game is nice but not nearly as important as wins come next March. That said you could be correct. Maybe he will put winning ahead of player and team development but my guess is he won't.

[Cdizzle]

No I don't underestimate that all. But I know he understands the big picture and that a win in an exhibition game is nice but not nearly as important as wins come next March. That said you could be correct. Maybe he will put winning ahead of player and team development but my guess is he won't.

I agree with you. I think each player should be demonstrating said competitive nature to win. And I'm sure that Marshall would like to win. But I think more than that he wants to find the combos that work, and a PG he can trust before heading to Atlantis.

[Dan]

I agree with you guys, but we should win these games based on talent alone. 3G will not be happy if our new guys can't win games against D2 level competition.

[Cdizzle]

None of the data given about the Carleton team says D2.

[1972Shocker]

I agree with you guys, but we should win these games based on talent alone. 3G will not be happy if our new guys can't win games against D2 level competition.

I think you may be underestimating Carleton. Now as far as the other teams we are scheduled to play I can not say. My initial comments were specifically focused on the Carleton discussion.

[Rally Doug]

Hello again. There was a question about the other teams that the Shockers will play. You should have no problems against the other three teams, although McGill can play good defence and last year only lost to Harvard (at Harvard) by 3 points, one week before the start of the NCAA season.

There are some significant differences in how university basketball operates in Canada. First, players may play for five years (not four). Also, there are no "one and done" players (unless they flunk out of school). So, our players tend to be older and more experienced. Second, there are no practice limitations. Carleton won the championship this year in mid March and have been practicing every day since then. The Ravens will be going on a 4/5 game exhibition tour to Italy in June. So, they will be ready to play come August.

In fact, Ravens' fans consider that there are two basketball seasons - the NCAA exhibition season in August and then the regular season starting in November.

I anticipate that the game will be close and entertaining.

[Wuzee]

No I don't underestimate that all. But I know he understands the big picture and that a win in an exhibition game is nice but not nearly as important as wins come next March. That said you could be correct. Maybe he will put winning ahead of player and team development but my guess is he won't.

I went north the last time we went to Canada (we finished 3-2) and I can tell you that winning games was not foremost on the minds of Turgeon's coaching staff and seriously doubt it will be for HCGM. This is about throwing a ton of new guys into the fire after just 10 practices, working on a core set of plays and instilling Shocker Basketball fundamentals against outside competition. We'll be looking a lot at different lineups and using every available player for significant minutes. Win or lose it's going to be great for the team.

Canadian basketball has come a long way since the last trip, and Carleton should be good competition. They don't have a lot of size, so I would expect Willis and Shaq to kill it down low. But they appear to have a very experienced backcourt.

[AndShock]

I think the game against Carleton will be different than the other games in terms of rotations and development. Is throwing a freshman PG out there and having them go, oh I don't know...1/10 or 4/15 from the field in a loss really going to do much for his development and/or confidence?

[Cdizzle]

I think the game against Carleton will be different than the other games in terms of rotations and development. Is throwing a freshman PG out there and having them go, oh I don't know...1/10 or 4/15 from the field in a loss really going to do much for his development and/or confidence?

Depends on the player. If a player already believes they know everything they need to know, that sort of experience can be very beneficial.