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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
    Yes. The committee could AND should adjust for home and road. A simple category called "adjusted top 50" would work well IMO.

    Adjusted top 50 = top 30 home games, top 50 neutral games, top 70 road games.
    Adjusted 51-100 = 31-81 home games, 51-100 neutral games, 71-121 road games.
    and so on...

    That would effectively mean a home win over 31 = neutral win over 51 = road win over 71. It would be super easy to calculate for every team and then the analysis I used in my original post could be followed using the adjusted records vs each category.
    Call it "Tier 1 record", "Tier 2 record", and so on.

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    • #17
      Combine the NCAA and NIT tournaments into one large tournament. Get rid of the post-season conference tournaments to allow an additional 3 rounds. That would allow most teams into the main tourney, meaning the other minor tournaments would no longer be necessary. Let a computer figure out the seeds and locations.


      I'm only joking about all of this. Anyone that has "The Onion" link, feel free to post it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
        Do you know what the 30%, 54% and 59% would be for teams in the 20-40 RPI range and also the 1-20 range?
        RPI 1-20 RPI 21-40 RPI 41-60
        vs top 25 55% 31% 30%
        vs 26-50 69% 54% 54%
        vs 51-100 80% 73% 59%
        I developed these numbers purely from 2016. I bet if you combined the last 3 years you would get a more accurate distribution, but this should be close enough to get the idea.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jamar Howard 4 President View Post
          RPI 1-20 RPI 21-40 RPI 41-60
          vs top 25 55% 31% 30%
          vs 26-50 69% 54% 54%
          vs 51-100 80% 73% 59%

          I developed these numbers purely from 2016. I bet if you combined the last 3 years you would get a more accurate distribution, but this should be close enough to get the idea.

          Thanks, JH4P. Not too much to differentiate 21-40 and 41-60 groups until the 51-100 level.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by im4wsu View Post
            Thanks, JH4P. Not too much to differentiate 21-40 and 41-60 groups until the 51-100 level.
            Yeah, I was surprised there wasn't a little more separation between those two groups. I would expect a little more separation if I used a larger sample size, such as 3 years rather than just 1, but who knows. 20 teams, averaging a handful of games in each category would seem to be a large enough sample size, but common sense tells me that there is no way the 41-60 group beats the top 25 equally to the 21-40 group. I just have to think there are some oddities in this year's numbers that would even out over several years.

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            • #21
              Something about JH4P’s first post in reminded of the book “Paradox of Choice” that reviewed similar situations over custody battles. A fun, but impossible experiment with blind resumes would be interesting to me.

              • The experiment would have the following elements/tricks

              • Without telling the committee, each blind resume comparison will be reviewed two times throughout the process. There would be a randomized order in comparisons, but the goal would be for the committee to not realize they have already looked at this particular comparison.

              • The key difference between the first and second review would be how the question is framed by the chair for each review:

              • First time through - Which team should be included based on the blind resume comparison?

              • Second time through – Which team should not be included based on the blind resume comparison?

              I wouldn’t be surprised if the same Blind Resume is chosen for both questions. With either question the “average” team that is missing great wins or terrible losses will be ignored. The bi-polar team with a couple of signature wins and a couple of terrible losses will be chosen because you have something to point at to justify your decision.

              I suspect this year’s committee spent a lot more time on “why a team should be included.”
              Last edited by proshox; March 23, 2016, 10:46 AM.

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              • #22
                It should not happen, but just how much weight does the name brand of Syracuse versus little ol' St. Mary's carry into the equation?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 60Shock View Post
                  It should not happen, but just how much weight does the name brand of Syracuse versus little ol' St. Mary's carry into the equation?
                  I don't know the exact unit conversions, but roughly the difference between an NCAA tourney 10 seed and an NIT 2 seed. Whatever that comes out to in grams.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by proshox View Post


                    I wouldn’t be surprised if this year’s committee spent a lot more time on “why a team should be included.”
                    Of course. Pick a name brand and find excuses to put them in the tourney. Syracuse is the perfect example.
                    "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ShockdaWorld View Post
                      Of course. Pick a name brand and find excuses to put them in the tourney. Syracuse is the perfect example.
                      Probably a fair statement, but in my controlled experiment team names would not be available.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by proshox View Post
                        Probably a fair statement, but in my controlled experiment team names would not be available.
                        I agree with your theory/experiment. I was just responding to what happened this year that would be taken out of the equation if what you are saying were ever to come to fruition.
                        "You Don't Have to Play a Perfect Game. Your Best is Good Enough."

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