Prayers for Grady

[Kung Wu]

I don't know much about spinal concussions, admittedly, but is there a possibility of further injury (any more than before)?

From what I have read, only if his cervical spinal canal is showing a reduction in diameter -- and the risk of reinjury is directly proportional to that reduction. If there is no reduction in the spinal canal, then there is no increased risk for reinjury. If there is a slight reduction, then there is slightly increased risk for reinjury. If there is significant reduction in diameter, then there is significant risk for reinjury.

[Steeleshocker]

I'd tend to agree with that. I've had my doubts about Grady coming back. If I was his mom I'd tell him to not risk his life.

It's a dangerous business walking out your front door.

[Manhattan_Shocker]

From what I read he has already been cleared medically. It's about if he's physically ready to compete at a high level.

[1972Shocker]

From what I read he has already been cleared medically. It's about if he's physically ready to compete at a high level.

He may be medically cleared to attempty to pass the necessary protocols for his injury. Apparently he is back to base zero in that regard as of this past Saturday.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14367456/anton-grady-wichita-state-shockers-not-play-again-suffering-spinal-concussion

Marshall isn't thinking about his return because he simply doesn't know if Grady will this season.

This doesn't mean he won't be back but 3G is apparently proceeding as if that is the case until he knows for sure otherwise.

[1972Shocker]

Return to Play Progression

There are five gradual steps to help safely return an athlete to play, adapted from the International Concussion Consensus Guidelines:

Baseline: No Symptoms
As the baseline step of the Return to Play Progression, the athlete needs to have completed physical and cognitive rest and not be experiencing concussion symptoms for a minimum of 24 hours. Keep in mind, the younger the athlete, the more conservative the treatment.

Step 1: Light aerobic activity
The Goal: Only to increase an athlete’s heart rate.
The Time: 5 to 10 minutes.
The Activities: Exercise bike, walking, or light jogging.
Absolutely no weight lifting, jumping or hard running.

Step 2: Moderate activity
The Goal: Limited body and head movement.
The Time: Reduced from typical routine.
The Activities: Moderate jogging, brief running, moderate-intensity stationary biking, and moderate-intensity weightlifting

Step 3: Heavy, non-contact activity
The Goal: More intense but non-contact
The Time: Close to typical routine
The Activities: Running, high-intensity stationary biking, the player’s regular weightlifting routine, and non-contact sport-specific drills. This stage may add some cognitive component to practice in addition to the aerobic and movement components introduced in Steps 1 and 2.

Step 4: Practice & full contact
The Goal: Reintegrate in full contact practice.

Step 5: Competition
The Goal: Return to competition.


It is important to monitor symptoms and cognitive function carefully during each increase of exertion. Athletes should only progress to the next level of exertion if they are not experiencing symptoms at the current level. If symptoms return at any step, an athlete should stop these activities as this may be a sign the athlete is pushing too hard. Only after additional rest, when the athlete is once again not experiencing symptoms for a minimum of 24 hours, should he or she start again at the previous step during which symptoms were experienced.

The Return to Play Progression process is best conducted through a team approach and by a health professional who knows the athlete’s physical abilities and endurance. By gauging the athlete’s performance on each individual step, a health care professional will be able to determine how far to progress the athlete on a given day. In some cases, the athlete may be able to work through one step in a single day, while in other cases it may take several days to work through an individual step. It may take several weeks to months to work through the entire 5-step progression.

[1972Shocker]

If Anton failed his 1st attempt at Step 1 and is back at the starting line he has a ways to go to get back on the court in a game. Once he is back in game competition I would anticipate they will work him back into the mix somewhat gradually. At this point his return timetable would seem to be unknowable.

[Kung Wu]

It may take several weeks to months to work through the entire 5-step progression.

Is the protocol for brain concussion the same as for a spinal concussion (CCN)?

[Kung Wu]

If Anton failed his 1st attempt at Step 1 and is back at the starting line he has a ways to go to get back on the court in a game. Once he is back in game competition I would anticipate they will work him back into the mix somewhat gradually. At this point his return timetable would seem to be unknowable.

There have been reports of him doing light jogging and shooting for at least a week, if not longer. I wonder if this was Step 2 or 3?

[1972Shocker]

Is the protocol for brain concussion the same as for a spinal concussion (CCN)?

That is apparently what Coach Marshall has been told:

"He jogged the other day during shootaround before the Utah game," Marshall told the ESPNU college basketball podcast Monday. "He said he got a headache, so they shut him down and put him back to base zero. . . . I've never heard of a spinal concussion, but what I'm learning is that you treat it like a head concussion. You have the same protocol to get back into activity.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14367456/anton-grady-wichita-state-shockers-not-play-again-suffering-spinal-concussion

[1972Shocker]

There have been reports of him doing light jogging and shooting for at least a week, if not longer. I wonder if this was Step 2 or 3?

Hard to say. We just know that Coach Marshall said that after Saturday he was back to base zero. It's possible he has tried Step 1 multiple times without success and has retuned to base zero each time. The most recent thing I have read is that he is back to base zero which I assume is the baseline. He apparently only has to go 24 hours symptom free before trying again although that is a minimum wait time. The protocol says that you go back to the previous step but maybe the Shocker trainers are being conservative and making him start over at base zero anytime he shows symptoms at any step along the way. No way to know for sure looking in from the outside.

[pinstripers]

Gets headaches when he jogs.

[RoyalShock]

Article about Anton from Cleveland.com

"No way I'm sitting out my senior season,'' he said. "I'm on a mission, and the mission is not over until the end of the season.''

[Stickboy46]

Article about Anton from Cleveland.com

Thanks, Its good to hear that there haven't been any setbacks since and that he really wants to get back on the court. If he wants to and the doctors clear him, I'll be there cheering him on. It will be a special senior night this year for many reasons.

[Dave Stalwart]

That's the most positive thing I've heard yet. I'm still hoping valley play is when we get him back. Now that I know he's adamant about playing again, I can get behind cheering him on a little more. He doesn't sound like someone who is scared and contemplating hanging it up.

[wufan]

He's easy to root for!