Anton Grady welcome aboard the Shocker train

[Play Angry]

Oh my goodness, I like how you said "where he did not redshirt" to fit your facts. I suppose the 2012-2013 season where he missed 26 games due to injuring his knee against Robert Morris, which made him red shirt, should be dismissed right? You do realize he played 6 games that year before going down with the injury. I said he never played a full season until last year and you go on to split the hair of all hairs by dismissing his red shirt season altogether as if he never set foot on the court that year. I'm sorry sir, but it doesn't work that way. He didn't elect to sit out that year and red shirt because of some personal or roster issue, he started the season and got hit with the injury. Big difference son.

I have bad news for you. It is very bad, so brace yourself. When you say:

until last year never played a full season

When this is actually the case:

Freshman year - played 33 out of 33 games, 100%
Sophomore year - injured, played 6 games and redshirted
Redshirt Sophomore year - played 31 out of 33 games, 94%
Junior year - played 34 out of 34 games, 100%

And you respond with:

I said he never played a full season until last year and you go on to split the hair of all hairs by dismissing his red shirt season

You have crossed the line from ignorant dumbass to slimeball and liar. Words like "never" and "always" are tricky. People forgive the occasional fib or exaggeration when the deviation is slight with these terms. When the truth is diametrically opposed, it becomes very tough. Especially when the proponent's shtick is acting like a contrarian, negative weasel.

A simple "I was wrong, oops" would have been much smarter. I am happy to continue to debate the truth of whether our newest Shocker has "never played a full season until last year" as long as you would like. Your turn.

[Turd Furgeson]

I have bad news for you. It is very bad, so brace yourself. When you say:


When this is actually the case:



And you respond with:


You have crossed the line from ignorant dumbass to slimeball and liar. Words like "never" and "always" are tricky. People forgive the occasional fib or exaggeration when the deviation is slight with these terms. When the truth is diametrically opposed, it becomes very tough. Especially when the proponent's shtick is acting like a contrarian, negative weasel.

A simple "I was wrong, oops" would have been much smarter. I am happy to continue to debate the truth of whether our newest Shocker has "never played a full season until last year" as long as you would like. Your turn.

His shtick was old years ago, now it is simply pathetic.

[Shocker1976]

I have bad news for you. It is very bad, so brace yourself. When you say:


When this is actually the case:



And you respond with:


You have crossed the line from ignorant dumbass to slimeball and liar. Words like "never" and "always" are tricky. People forgive the occasional fib or exaggeration when the deviation is slight with these terms. When the truth is diametrically opposed, it becomes very tough. Especially when the proponent's shtick is acting like a contrarian, negative weasel.

A simple "I was wrong, oops" would have been much smarter. I am happy to continue to debate the truth of whether our newest Shocker has "never played a full season until last year" as long as you would like. Your turn.

Are you sure you are not Fever practicing evisceration?

[shoxlax]

I think @ShockerFever: and I are both bored with KC Shox. His weird codependency on bad news and adverse reactions to any thing good are however worthy of psychoanalysis

[WSUwatcher]

Gotta go with Play Angry on this one. KC was complaining about something, as always, and got caught supporting his complaint with imaginary "facts." He probably didn't even look it up, and if he did and said it anyway he had to be hoping no one else would check. Not good technique.

You don't need to be Fever to send that kind of stuff back in the direction from which it came.

[Shocker-maniac]

Gotta go with Play Angry on this one. KC was complaining about something, as always, and got caught supporting his complaint with imaginary "facts." He probably didn't even look it up, and if he did and said it anyway he had to be hoping no one else would check. Not good technique.

You don't need to be Fever to send that kind of stuff back in the direction from which it came.

I agree 100% with this and appreciate @PlayAngry: setting the record straight.

[Lawman]

Check your facts you dumb bastard. Grady has missed two (2) total games in his three full (3) seasons where he did not redshirt, meaning he played in 98 out of 100 possible games those years.

why do you have to be so hateful? This is a respectful forum board that has absolutely no need for crap such as yours!

[Shocker-maniac]

Wichita State’s depth could reveal more facets to Anton Grady’s game

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college...#storylink=cpy

[shoxlax]

why do you have to be so hateful? This is a respectful forum board that has absolutely no need for crap such as yours!

Tough to hold your tongue when the offender repeatedly makes **** up.

But again, I'm bored with him.

[Kung Wu]

Uuuuuuhhhhhh *hic* .... yeah, I jusht wanted to know if .... uhhhhhhh, will Anton be pracishing *hic* .... uhhhh .... his freethrows over the shummer? And uhhhhhh, don't you think we'd of .... uuhhhh ... beat Notre Dame if you called a timeout when Fleddie Flan -- urrrr *hic* Fleddy Vranderfleet urrr Van Fleeter was tarred? Thanks I'll hang up and listen.

[150946shox]

He is a fine traffic player, which is important for 5 men.

I am surprised he did not have a higher average.

He shot a lot of three balls.

I hope the stats have been posted somewhere on this fine forum.

Actually, I think his stats last year had him 4-10 from 3 the past year. His YouTube video showed him hitting plenty of threes, but apparently he really doesn't shoot that often from the 3 point line.

[Kel Varnsen]

why do you have to be so hateful? This is a respectful forum board that has absolutely no need for crap such as yours!

Do you even interwebz?

[im4wsu]

From Sports Reference Advanced Stats

Player	Grady	Carter	Wessel	Morris	Brown	Kelly	Nurger	Wamukota
G	33	35	32	33	27	35	24	32
MP	984	750	756	420	284	483	212	192
Player Eff Rate	25	25.7	11.9	16.8	17.8	11.5	12.3	9.5
True Shoot %	0.519	0.554	0.523	0.569	0.645	0.526	0.579	0.496
eFG%	0.488	0.53	0.521	0.545	0.616	0.519	0.539	0.455
3PAr	0.026	0.023	0.717	0.009	0.464	0.117	0.474	0
FTr	0.398	0.413	0.142	0.473	0.518	0.545	0.526	1.273
Pts Produced	456	355	143	142	83	114	50	41
ORB%	9.7	10.4	7.5	7.3	7.5	11.1	4.5	11.7
DRB%	23.9	20.4	11.3	17.8	8.3	14.4	11.7	18.8
TRB%	16.8	15.3	9.4	12.4	7.9	12.7	8	15.2
AST%	14.7	6.3	5.3	5.6	4.9	5.5	3.6	0.9
STL%	3.2	1.3	2.1	1.4	2	1.7	0.9	0.7
BLK%	5.9	3.3	0.8	7.3	4.2	2.7	5	3.1
TOV%	13.6	9.3	9.9	17.9	14.7	27.1	14.4	18.5
USG%	29.2	28.6	10.2	21.6	15.6	14.9	14.2	12.2
OWS	2.1	2.4	1.1	0.6	0.7	0.2	0.3	0.2
DWS	2.2	1.7	1.4	1	0.6	1	0.4	0.4
WS	4.3	4.1	2.5	1.6	1.3	1.2	0.7	0.6
WS/40	0.176	0.218	0.135	0.156	0.181	0.099	0.138	0.12
OBPM	-0.4	1.4	2.8	-1.7	3.4	-1.4	0.2	-2.9
DBPM	4.2	1.3	3.4	4.8	3.4	3.8	3.1	1.5
Box +/-	3.8	2.7	6.2	3.2	6.8	2.4	3.3	-1.4

[Rlh04d]

Oh my goodness, I like how you said "where he did not redshirt" to fit your facts. I suppose the 2012-2013 season where he missed 26 games due to injuring his knee against Robert Morris, which made him red shirt, should be dismissed right? You do realize he played 6 games that year before going down with the injury. I said he never played a full season until last year and you go on to split the hair of all hairs by dismissing his red shirt season altogether as if he never set foot on the court that year. I'm sorry sir, but it doesn't work that way. He didn't elect to sit out that year and red shirt because of some personal or roster issue, he started the season and got hit with the injury. Big difference son.

I accept your silly negative-nancy attitude most of the time, as at least it's something different, and I like contrary opinions.

But this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen you say, and going on the offensive when you are CLEARLY wrong is embarrassing. You owe him an apology.

[Rlh04d]

He is a fine traffic player, which is important for 5 men.

I am surprised he did not have a higher average.

He shot a lot of three balls.

I hope the stats have been posted somewhere on this fine forum.

I was wondering what his stats looked like against our other big's recently, and put this together based on per-40-minute stats:

	Pt/40	FG%-3PT%	3PT%	FT%	R/40	A/40	Bl/40	St/40	F/40	TO/40
Grady (6'8")	18.42	48.95%	26.32%	63.74%	10.58	2.58	1.76	1.80	4.94	2.98
Shaq (6'7")	14.86	54.95%	0.00%	64.20%	8.19	1.05	2.48	0.86	8.76	2.86
Carter (6'7")	19.42	52.30%	57.14%	64.29%	9.97	0.89	1.41	0.72	4.32	1.53
Hall (6'8")	16.39	55.75%	0.00%	66.28%	9.27	1.07	1.96	0.75	3.80	1.69
Stutz (7')	18.97	54.62%	29.29%	75.83%	10.70	1.68	1.73	0.62	5.44	3.14
Lufile (6'9")	12.41	55.56%	0.00%	55.66%	11.16	0.81	1.77	0.72	3.50	2.54
Coleby (6'9")	12.68	52.84%	0.00%	50.00%	8.22	1.02	3.87	0.49	5.21	2.98

Glancing over that, I wouldn't argue that Grady is clearly the best big man we've had, but he matches up well in most categories. He matches up surprisingly well to Stutz across the board, except FT%. It would be interesting to run the numbers of opponent quality that Grady faced versus what Stutz faced.

His assist numbers are terrific, and are beyond any big man we've had ... in fact they're equivalent to what Seth Tuttle put up at UNI prior to his senior year (at which point his 4.3 A/40 rate bumped up his average quite a bit). His steal rate is absolutely incredible, and would be second on the team to FVV's 2.37 St/40 (and ahead of Baker's 1.64). His rebounding rate is very, very good, and is better than we've seen from anyone of his height.

He has a long-range game that's acceptable, and he's only the third big we've had that has that in his game at all. His FT% is average given our bigs. Fouls are average, turnovers might be a bit below average. Blocks are average.

FG% is clearly the lowest of any of our bigs, though. It's possible that's more about shot selection due to carrying his team than anything else, though: last year he took nearly 100 more shots than any of those guys at WSU ever took, and even his sophomore season would have ranked third, behind Carter and Stutz's senior seasons. But that is a steady percentage across all three years, so it just might be who he is. I would bet that FG% goes above .500 with FVV getting him the ball, though.

Really surprises me his foul average was worse than Carter's.

Also worth keeping in mind everyone but Grady and Shaq there are counting senior seasons, when every player but Coleby put up improved numbers. Without his senior season, for instance, Grady beats Stutz handily in every category but FG% and FT%.