Scoring Down - Rule Changes Ahead?

[pie n eye]

Full quote from Marshall:

“I’ve done some international tours where they play with a 24-second clock and that’s kind of quick for me,” he said. “We need to teach skills at the lower levels. There would be less of an outcry about what’s going on in the lower levels if we just taught skills instead of just rolling the balls out at the lower levels. I also think the game is very physical. It’s become that way. It’s harder to score because of all the physicality. It’s hard to make shots because of all the physicality.”

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[Shock Therapy]

Mostly re: charges, right?

I was under the impression almost all of the rest (hand checks, body contact, etc.) was jawboning from their bosses as "points of emphasis," which basically stopped being emphasized by late December.

Yup, the rule changes only had to do with charges. The points of emphasis were really just reinterpretations of existing rules that were just sort of abandoned. Likely because they didn't clean the game up, they just made it suck. People that complain about the in game promotions ruining the energy at Koch need to reflect on those early games last season to see just how bad it can really get. They were awful.

[Cdizzle]

Yah, but the higher scoring was the result of insane free throw contests. That is NOT the way to increase scoring. No thanks.

I agree that that was to be the short term result. And it was ugly. However, because they did not stick with it, we didn't get to find out if eventually coaching, and players, would eventually adjust their games because coaches hate giving up free throws.

[Steeleshocker]

I'm with Marshall, I don't think a shorter shot clock solves the problem without the rules actually being enforced. It will suck for a little bit, but even during December last season when they emphasized the rules I didn't think it was that bad. Sure, there were some ugly games I saw on tv, but the Shockers play defense the right way and or games were still enjoyable.

Give it two full seasons of enforcing the rules and I'm sure you will get the scoring back up. And the game won't be nearly as physical or ugly. And coaches like Marshall will still be able to do their favorite part, teach.

[1979Shocker]

One way to increase scoring would be to change the free throw shooting rules for non-shooting fouls to something similar to what the NBA has where they have a free throw attempt followed by the penalty attempt. No more having to make the first free throw to get the second.

[Blackmag]

To me it seems like it depends on the teams that are playing, some teams are very defensive like our Shocks. When we are on our game we make it hard for teams to score. If a team doesnt have the horses they will be more deliberate, and play deep into the shot clock and walk it up the court. The Big 12 to me , is an offense first, defense 2nd much like the NBA. Watching the KU-Iowa State game, it was like a track meet, with very little defense and alot of transiton baskets and 3-pointers, very helter skelter. K-State on the otheir hand tonight for the most part played the game at their speed and really came closer to winning than KU. Ive always viewed K-State as a defensive team and I think thats why they were able to Knock of offensive minded OU and Baylor. The old saying that defense wins championships really is true. Look at Kentucky this year, yea they can score but their defense is really whats setting them apart. ( and alot of size ).

[capnkirk]

I hate the idea of shortening the shot clock. It forces teams to play the same style of play. Goodbye to such things as the Princeton offense.

And fans are not going to be happy about watching a free throw shooting contest.

[shockmonster]

Most athletic teams can play good defense for 20-25 seconds. The thing that separates the Shockers is that we often are able to play good defense for 30-35 seconds. Most athletic teams can pressure and run on offense which are benefitted by a 24 second clock. We also can do that but our half court offense/defense is also good. While we will still win our share of games, it benefits (greater) teams with elite, less coachable players and coaches who can recruit but not coach.

[im4wsu]

Exactly! I's been well documented that teams were averaging around 9 more free throws a game, which is insane.

This doesn't address free throws directly, but here is the breakdown of the Shockers 2013-14 season.

Sechedule	Games	Fouls	Per Game	Pts/Game
Non-Con	13	235	18.1	77.4
MVC	18	297	16.5	73.9
MVC Tourn	3	41	13.7	76.7
NCAA	2	38	19.0	70.0