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**ShockTalk** · December 27, 2014, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by Ricardo del Rio View Post

Check out Zach's production in the Sports Reference link above. See 79's post #6 for the link.

Relative to other players, Zach's advanced ranking is pretty impressive. Start with player efficiency rating.

His "offensive wins share" is impressive, but note his "defensive wins share". This may be a clue as to his minutes.

I also noticed in comparing last year with this year, that Ron's assists per game is down from 3.1 to 2.1 this year. FVV is level, Cotton is up.

**1979Shocker** · January 3, 2015, 01:46 AM

Ranking after 13 games. (Drake)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games
1	Ron Baker	13
2	Fred VanVleet	13
3	Darius Carter	13
4	Tekele Cotton	12
5	Rashard Kelly	13
6	Evan Wessel	10
7	Ria'n Holland	13
8	Zach Brown	9
9	Rauno Nurger	13
10	Shaquille Morris	11
11	Tevin Glass	5
12	Corey Henderson	12
13	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	12
14	Jared Walker	3
15	Zach Bush	3
16	John Robert Simon	4

**1979Shocker** · January 6, 2015, 09:05 PM

Ranking after 14 games. (Illinois State)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games
1	Ron Baker	14
2	Fred VanVleet	14
3	Tekele Cotton	13
4	Darius Carter	14
5	Rashard Kelly	14
6	Evan Wessel	11
7	Zach Brown	10
8	Ria'n Holland	14
9	Shaquille Morris	12
10	Rauno Nurger	13
11	Tevin Glass	5
12	Corey Henderson	13
13	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	13
14	Jared Walker	3
15	Zach Bush	3
16	John Robert Simon	4

**1979Shocker** · January 8, 2015, 10:34 PM

Ranking after 15 games. (Bradley)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games
1	Ron Baker	15
2	Fred VanVleet	15
3	Darius Carter	15
4	Tekele Cotton	14
5	Rashard Kelly	15
6	Evan Wessel	12
7	Shaquille Morris	13
8	Zach Brown	11
9	Ria'n Holland	15
10	Rauno Nurger	13
11	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	14
12	Tevin Glass	6
13	Corey Henderson	14
14	Jared Walker	3
15	Zach Bush	3
16	John Robert Simon	4

**1979Shocker** · January 13, 2015, 11:14 PM

Ranking after 16 games. (Loyola Chicago)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games
1	Ron Baker	16
2	Fred VanVleet	16
3	Darius Carter	16
4	Tekele Cotton	15
5	Evan Wessel	13
6	Rashard Kelly	16
7	Shaquille Morris	14
8	Zach Brown	12
9	Ria'n Holland	16
10	Rauno Nurger	13
11	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	15
12	Tevin Glass	7
13	Corey Henderson	15
14	Jared Walker	3
15	Zach Bush	3
16	John Robert Simon	4

**1979Shocker** · January 15, 2015, 09:01 PM

Ranking after 17 games. (Southern Illinois)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games
1	Ron Baker	17
2	Fred VanVleet	17
3	Darius Carter	17
4	Tekele Cotton	16
5	Evan Wessel	14
6	Rashard Kelly	17
7	Zach Brown	13
8	Shaquille Morris	15
9	Ria'n Holland	17
10	Rauno Nurger	14
11	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	16
12	Tevin Glass	7
13	Corey Henderson	16
14	Jared Walker	4
15	Zach Bush	3
16	John Robert Simon	5

**1979Shocker** · January 18, 2015, 07:39 PM

Ranking after 18 games. (Evansville)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

I included Win Shares Per 40 Minutes (WS/40) from the link. Rank is based on Win Shares (WS), which is different than WS/40. That's why Fred is ranked ahead of Darius, even though Darius has a better WS/40.

Rank	Player	Games	WS/40
1	Ron Baker	18	.243
2	Fred VanVleet	18	.234
3	Darius Carter	18	.236
4	Tekele Cotton	17	.156
5	Evan Wessel	15	.158
6	Rashard Kelly	18	.116
7	Shaquille Morris	16	.171
8	Zach Brown	14	.198
9	Ria'n Holland	18	.139
10	Rauno Nurger	15	.136
11	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	17	.131
12	Tevin Glass	8	.197
13	Corey Henderson	17	.045
14	Jared Walker	5	.192
15	Zach Bush	3	-.031
16	John Robert Simon	6	.049

**1979Shocker** · January 22, 2015, 10:59 PM

Ranking after 19 games. (Missouri State)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games	WS/40
1	Ron Baker	19	.246
2	Fred VanVleet	19	.244
3	Darius Carter	19	.241
4	Tekele Cotton	18	.164
5	Evan Wessel	16	.156
6	Rashard Kelly	19	.122
7	Shaquille Morris	17	.154
8	Zach Brown	15	.188
9	Ria'n Holland	19	.128
10	Rauno Nurger	16	.131
11	Tevin Glass	9	.275
12	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	18	.130
13	Corey Henderson	18	.046
14	John Robert Simon	7	.121
15	Jared Walker	6	.188
16	Zach Bush	3	-.031

**1979Shocker** · February 4, 2015, 07:54 PM

Ranking after 22 games. (Drake; Loyola Chicago; Northern Iowa)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games	WS/40
1	Ron Baker	22	.240
2	Fred VanVleet	22	.247
3	Tekele Cotton	21	.167
4	Darius Carter	22	.235
5	Evan Wessel	19	.145
6	Rashard Kelly	22	.112
7	Shaquille Morris	20	.167
8	Zach Brown	18	.165
9	Ria'n Holland	22	.117
10	Tevin Glass	12	.324
11	Rauno Nurger	19	.116
12	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	21	.126
13	Corey Henderson	21	.049
14	Jared Walker	8	.210
15	Zach Bush	3	-.034
16	John Robert Simon	9	.069

**1979Shocker** · February 5, 2015, 09:23 PM

Ranking after 23 games. (Bradley)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games	WS/40
1	Ron Baker	23	.240
2	Fred VanVleet	23	.242
3	Darius Carter	23	.234
4	Tekele Cotton	22	.161
5	Evan Wessel	20	.140
6	Shaquille Morris	21	.164
7	Rashard Kelly	23	.108
8	Zach Brown	19	.164
9	Ria'n Holland	22	.116
10	Rauno Nurger	20	.119
11	Tevin Glass	13	.288
12	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	22	.130
13	Corey Henderson	22	.044
14	Jared Walker	8	.208
15	Zach Bush	3	-.034
16	John Robert Simon	9	.068

**1979Shocker** · February 8, 2015, 09:58 PM

Ranking after 24 games. (Missouri State)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Rank	Player	Games	WS/40
1	Ron Baker	24	.252
2	Fred VanVleet	24	.257
3	Darius Carter	24	.238
4	Tekele Cotton	23	.164
5	Evan Wessel	21	.143
6	Shaquille Morris	22	.172
7	Rashard Kelly	24	.115
8	Zach Brown	19	.169
9	Rauno Nurger	21	.136
10	Ria'n Holland	23	.117
11	Tevin Glass	14	.230
12	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	23	.149
13	Corey Henderson	23	.063
14	John Robert Simon	10	.171
15	Jared Walker	9	.209
16	Zach Bush	3	-.028

**1979Shocker** · February 12, 2015, 01:12 PM

Ranking after 25 games. (Indiana State)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Fred VanVleet has taken over the #1 rank.

They have also added three new columns, which I'm showing below. These are plus/minus values. See the link above for the definitions.

Rank	Player	Games	WS/40	OBPM	DBPM	BPM
1	Fred VanVleet	25	.266	7.7	4.0	11.7
2	Ron Baker	25	.245	7.4	3.3	10.7
3	Tekele Cotton	24	.169	2.7	3.6	6.2
4	Darius Carter	25	.240	1.6	1.2	2.8
5	Evan Wessel	22	.143	2.5	3.9	6.4
6	Shaquille Morris	23	.174	-1.0	5.4	4.4
7	Rashard Kelly	25	.115	-0.8	3.9	3.1
8	Zach Brown	19	.169	3.1	3.0	6.1
9	Rauno Nurger	22	.137	0.0	3.5	3.4
10	Ria'n Holland	24	.111	0.5	1.1	1.5
11	Tevin Glass	15	.218	2.3	1.4	3.7
12	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	24	.158	-2.3	2.1	-0.2
13	Corey Henderson	24	.060	-2.5	-1.7	-4.1
14	John Robert Simon	11	.162	0.9	6.1	7.0
15	Jared Walker	10	.168	1.9	-0.4	1.5
16	Zach Bush	3	-.027	-9.2	2.2	-7.1

**1979Shocker** · February 15, 2015, 05:58 PM

Ranking after 26 games. (Illinois State)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Ron Baker is back on top again.

Rank	Player	Games	WS/40	OBPM	DBPM	BPM
1	Ron Baker	26	.250	7.6	3.2	10.9
2	Fred VanVleet	26	.261	7.5	3.9	11.4
3	Tekele Cotton	25	.166	2.6	3.7	6.3
4	Darius Carter	26	.231	1.3	1.1	2.5
5	Evan Wessel	23	.148	2.7	3.6	6.3
6	Shaquille Morris	24	.166	-1.3	5.5	4.3
7	Rashard Kelly	26	.113	-0.7	3.8	3.0
8	Zach Brown	19	.168	3.2	2.9	6.0
9	Rauno Nurger	22	.137	0.0	3.5	3.5
10	Ria'n Holland	24	.111	0.5	1.1	1.6
11	Tevin Glass	16	.216	2.3	1.5	3.8
12	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	24	.157	-2.2	2.0	-0.2
13	Corey Henderson	25	.050	-2.9	-1.8	-4.7
14	John Robert Simon	11	.161	0.9	6.1	7.0
15	Jared Walker	10	.167	1.9	-0.4	1.6
16	Zach Bush	3	-.028	-9.2	2.2	-7.0

**1979Shocker** · February 19, 2015, 01:10 PM

Ranking after 27 games. (Southern Illinois)

Click http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...advanced::none to see the full stats.

Ron Baker is back on top again.

Rank	Player	Games	WS/40	OBPM	DBPM	BPM
1	Ron Baker	27	.250	7.7	3.3	11.0
2	Fred VanVleet	27	.261	7.5	3.7	11.2
3	Tekele Cotton	26	.168	2.8	3.6	6.4
4	Darius Carter	27	.228	1.5	1.2	2.6
5	Evan Wessel	24	.148	2.9	3.7	6.6
6	Shaquille Morris	25	.183	-0.7	5.2	4.5
7	Rashard Kelly	27	.114	-0.6	3.7	3.1
8	Zach Brown	19	.167	3.2	2.8	6.0
9	Rauno Nurger	23	.147	0.4	3.1	3.5
10	Ria'n Holland	25	.108	0.5	0.9	1.4
11	Tevin Glass	17	.196	1.5	0.9	2.4
12	Tom "Bush" Wamukota	25	.151	-2.4	1.9	-0.6
13	Corey Henderson	26	.059	-2.4	-1.8	-4.1
14	John Robert Simon	12	.152	0.9	4.9	5.8
15	Jared Walker	11	.208	4.3	-0.5	3.8
16	Zach Bush	3	-.028	-9.1	2.1	-7.0

**MadaboutWu** · February 19, 2015, 02:15 PM

Shaq's DBPM is crazy high--small sample size? Shaq's defensive strength? Problem with the metric? Rauno at 3.1 also is a headscratcher.

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