SLU Tickets - Intrust Bank Arena

[FlyingWheat]

How did you make up the 90's? There was no radio past McPherson after a game LAST YEAR.

If the MAJORITY of WSU fans were without the option, I suspect that would be well known. Remember, there is only one radio station, that I am aware of, outside of KEYN that carries the games, so most fans are in the Wichita area and have access to Cox.

You can conjure up all the misleading comments you wish to put somebody down, but that doesn't change facts or make it right.

Sporry you can't have EVERYTHING you way, I really truly am sorry, because you DESERVE EVERYTHING.

Almost every station these days has internet simulcast.

[WstateU]

I do have Cox but I do drive 2 hours to every home game, also. Not EVERYONE can live in Wichita, however, so I accept that.

btw, for years, I had no TV OR radio access to the Shockers, and Cox doesn't show all the games. I still don't get clean audio here. Fortunately, the change from 1330 to 103.7 for the post-game show allows me to listen to most of it, instead of having to give up around McPherson. Would I pay to have radio? Sure, but I don't have the option. That is just UN-AMERICAN. EVERYONE should have the option.

So I thank you in advance for bring this up, completing a feasibility study and writing whatever check is necessary to satisy both our needs, and the service men and women around the globe.

Add 100.3 FM to your dial; not sure how much pre-game and post-game coverage they offer, however they have been airing most of the games and have a link to the GoShockers website. I believe coverage from Wichita to Larned/Great Bend areas. They offer a link to internet simulcasts. Baby steps.

KNZS Rocks!

http://www.adastraradio.com/knzs.php

http://www.adastraradio.com/sports.php

P.S. http://www.adastraradio.com/sg_userf...l_Schedule.pdf

[ShockerFever]

How did you make up the 90's? There was no radio past McPherson after a game LAST YEAR.

If the MAJORITY of WSU fans were without the option, I suspect that would be well known. Remember, there is only one radio station, that I am aware of, outside of KEYN that carries the games, so most fans are in the Wichita area and have access to Cox.

You can conjure up all the misleading comments you wish to put somebody down, but that doesn't change facts or make it right.

Sporry you can't have EVERYTHING you way, I really truly am sorry, because you DESERVE EVERYTHING.

WTF am I saying that's misleading?

You still don't get it and you never will. You aren't unable to watch WSU games AND sacrificing your choice of cable provider at the same time. I can't believe how dense a person can be to not understand what's going on. This isn't about ME. It's about the MAJORITY of WSU fans within the city limits of Wichita, Kansas unable to see certain Shocker games on their tvs through no fault of their own other than being FORCED into switching a cable provider they may not wish to subscribe to.

IF YOU PUT THE GAMES ON A LOCAL TV AFFILIATE, EVERYONE HAS THE OPTION TO WATCH WSU BASKETBALL ON THE CARRIER OF THEIR CHOOSING.

Good Lord, I didn't realize these Cox drones were so far in bed with their cable company that's blinded them out of basic conceptual understandings. Wow.

[Dave Stalwart]

Can someone explain to me why WSU, KSU and KU games aren't always on local channels like KWCH or KAKE or KSN? Wasn't it kind of a normal thing to expect them to carry games once?

Is it that WSU sells games to the highest bidder and Cox is bidding the highest? I'd sure like to be able to catch games on a regular channel. It just seems right.

[ShockerEngr]

Cox is footing the bill for production costs for the games, and is also picking up events outside of men's basketball. None of the local stations were willing to go that far.

The advantage that cox has brought is everything is televised. I'm sure they justify the expense by getting additional subscribers out of the deal. It's interesting that KU now has a similar deal with cox, much to the chagrin of phog.net

[WuShock16]

I know there is some issue about being on one of the networks and having to arrange to pre-empt all of the primetime shows. For example, if we did try to have a game on KWCH on a Thursday night at 7pm, the station would have to work out with the network to pre-empt The Big Bang Theory (GREAT show!) and replay it later in the evening (at like 11:30 at night). There might even be some financial stipulations too. That's just a small example, but I do remember hearing somewhere that there are issues like that when dealing with the networks.

[im4wsu]

WTF am I saying that's misleading?

You still don't get it and you never will. You aren't unable to watch WSU games AND sacrificing your choice of cable provider at the same time. I can't believe how dense a person can be to not understand what's going on. This isn't about ME. It's about the MAJORITY of WSU fans within the city limits of Wichita, Kansas unable to see certain Shocker games on their tvs through no fault of their own other than being FORCED into switching a cable provider they may not wish to subscribe to.

IF YOU PUT THE GAMES ON A LOCAL TV AFFILIATE, EVERYONE HAS THE OPTION TO WATCH WSU BASKETBALL ON THE CARRIER OF THEIR CHOOSING.

Good Lord, I didn't realize these Cox drones were so far in bed with their cable company that's blinded them out of basic conceptual understandings. Wow.

Ummmm, a mirror would help you!

Just what I'm saying, but you won't understand. Yiu want it your way, on a free TV channel, regardless of what the economics are. Just like HBO or NBAS or MLB, if you want that availability, select the provider that makes it available. No different that Verizon vs AT&T or Dish vs Direct vs Cox.

[QUOTEWTF am I saying that's misleading?][/QUOTE] What are the numbers of fans who do and who don't? How many that do were "forced"?

IF YOU PUT THE GAMES ON A LOCAL TV AFFILIATE, EVERYONE HAS THE OPTION TO WATCH WSU BASKETBALL ON THE CARRIER OF THEIR CHOOSING.

That takes $$$$. Instead of perpetuating a fruitless argument, either write the check or use your vast skillset to actually help, raise some money, organize a petyition that you should easily obtain several hunderd thousand signatures from this MAJORITY of fed up shocker fans.

[proshox]

Since Cox took over (Mark Ewing specifically) it seems to me that the quality of broadcast has improved dramatically. I think that should be taking into account as one of the benefits of the current arrangement. As a business, Cox knows that content sells and in most cases fans can pay a premium to watch the shockers. Remember that these games take time, energy, and financial risk to broadcast. Furthermore, I do not believe add revenue alone will result in a better product.

In my last house, I had DirecTV and added Cox basic during the season. It was really simple to do and I could just turn Cox on and off for the exact period of service. I think most people could do the same and have a suitable “market” solution to the problem.

All things being equal, games on a free channel would be nice but I am willing to bet the economics do not support it. Until they do, I am not sure what SF is really proposing. I think WSU's only other realistic offer would be to put all games on the internet via ESPN3 (which would result in a worse product based on other ESPN3 games).

[Fozzy]

This article from earlier this year does a good job explaining how the tv stuff works - http://www.kansas.com/sports/college...le1132185.html

[BikeIdiot]

The biggest problem Wichita has is a lack of vision and leadership. Mayans is the reason we don't have Bass Pro Shop. Our current Mayor provides absolutely zilch in these areas at a time that we are in economic stagnation. Wichita is still stuck in the 1970's while Tulsa, OKC and many other cities in the region have been very progressive about growth and improving the quality of life. We really need a Mayor that has a vision for Wichita and can provide leadership to the community.

Edit: I am so thankful for President Bardo who is a visionary and leader on steroids. His work is not only going to benefit WSU but the entire community.

I agree. Imagine if we had to build the Canal Route today. Look how the Kellogg/Armour/Rock road interchange is a complete cluster. The Kellogg and Webb interchanges is a mess. Is is any surprise IBA was screwed up also?

[ShockerFever]

Ummmm, a mirror would help you!

Just what I'm saying, but you won't understand. Yiu want it your way, on a free TV channel, regardless of what the economics are. Just like HBO or NBAS or MLB, if you want that availability, select the provider that makes it available. No different that Verizon vs AT&T or Dish vs Direct vs Cox.

WTF am I saying that's misleading?

What are the numbers of fans who do and who don't? How many that do were "forced"?

That takes $$$$. Instead of perpetuating a fruitless argument, either write the check or use your vast skillset to actually help, raise some money, organize a petyition that you should easily obtain several hunderd thousand signatures from this MAJORITY of fed up shocker fans.

No, Cox droner. I didn't say I wanted it on a free tv channel. You clearly don't read and interpret things very well. I clearly stated numerous times now that I'd be willing to pay to see WSU play on Uverse. Maybe since I've mentioned it a 5th time, it'll sink in.

MLB, NBA, HBO are ALL available on ALL cable/satellite providers. Please try and understand this.

Cox 22 is available on ONE cable provider.

See the difference? That was a horrible analogy that I now crafted into a point that aids into my argument. You simply don't get it and never will. You're a Cox drone. You're happy. If the roles were reversed, you'd have a different argument and you wouldn't be so steadfast in your hippity, happilty, hoppity ways.

As to your last regurgitated post, that's my whole effing point. WSU is willing to forego the promotion of its athletics and happiness of its fans to make a few bucks. Sure, it makes sense fiscally, but it's a horrible PR move. It makes WSU look small-time and it pisses off a lot of people who can't do anything about it but "deal with it", while all the Cox drones live happily telling everyone to "deal with it".

You don't get, won't get it, and will never get it until it happens to you.

But keep on keepin' on.

[ShockerFever]

Since Cox took over (Mark Ewing specifically) it seems to me that the quality of broadcast has improved dramatically. I think that should be taking into account as one of the benefits of the current arrangement. As a business, Cox knows that content sells and in most cases fans can pay a premium to watch the shockers. Remember that these games take time, energy, and financial risk to broadcast. Furthermore, I do not believe add revenue alone will result in a better product.

In my last house, I had DirecTV and added Cox basic during the season. It was really simple to do and I could just turn Cox on and off for the exact period of service. I think most people could do the same and have a suitable “market” solution to the problem.

All things being equal, games on a free channel would be nice but I am willing to bet the economics do not support it. Until they do, I am not sure what SF is really proposing. I think WSU's only other realistic offer would be to put all games on the internet via ESPN3 (which would result in a worse product based on other ESPN3 games).

That's great that the quality improved. But it doesn't matter if only a handful of the WSU fanbase is able to see it.

A standard-defintiion internet webcast that EVERYBODY has access to still trumps a high-definition mega-picture that only caters to a few.

WSU doesn't wanna cater to the entire fanbase. They'd rather pocket the Benjamins.

[im4wsu]

You don't read it has happened to me and I didn't go around calling railing about it instead of trying to do something to correct it

[ShockerFever]

You don't read it has happened to me and I didn't go around calling railing about it instead of trying to do something to correct it

Your grammar here is failing. Perhaps it's time to take a break, rather than waiting second-to-second for me to post so you can counter with your Pro-Cox pump-up party.

[im4wsu]

You could tak a big break. Try it, you might like it