2014-15 National Rankings

[Shocker1976]

But we dont play overrated big 12 teams every week

As true a statement as I have read anywhere!

[ShockerFever]

Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 23m23 minutes ago
LOL AP has Wichita ranked ahead of Kansas. Thats cute.

His mom's face was cute last night.

[ShockerFever]

Somebody tweet him the FVV ankle breaker video and ask him if he thought it was cute.

[Dave Stalwart]

I did a lot of whining after our game because I have fun with having a chip on our shoulder about rankings, but I am thrilled about where we are. This poll is exactly how I wanted it.

We are probably able to control our own destiny about getting as high as a two seed now. Right now, we are probably a 3 even though we got ranked 8. I'm okay with that. Now if someone comes along and says we are a 5 seed or a bubble team just to be annoying, then whatever. It's just that now people are going to be "knocking us" just by saying we are a 3. That's not that bad and frankly if we get bumped by a KU or a Maryland for that, I can get over it.

The catch is that if we win out and ANYONE 3-7 loses anything, we are a 2. Heck, I don't even know that anyone has to lose. We just have to strengthen our 8 as much as we can and it will happen.

This was a rebuilding year, folks :)

[AZ Shocker]

Love it!!! Look who's behind us.

AP POLL:

8. Studs!!! Wichita St. 27-3
9. Pretenders. Kansas 23-6
10. "At his level" Maryland 24-5
11. 2nd Place Northern Iowa 27-3

[Jamar Howard 4 President]

Louisville was ranked #5 in the Final AP poll before Selection Sunday last year. They received a 4 seed. Poll rankings don't guarantee anything as far as seeding.

WSU is far from controlling its own destiny for a 2 seed. A 2 is still possible, but will significantly depend on other results.

[AZ Shocker]

Louisville was ranked #5 in the Final AP poll before Selection Sunday last year. They received a 4 seed. Poll rankings don't guarantee anything as far as seeding.

WSU is far from controlling its own destiny for a 2 seed. It is still possible, but will significantly depend on other results.

Let's just piss everyone off leaving no doubt and go get that 2 seed winning the Valley Championship!!!! I like pissing off BCS fans!!!!

[Dave Stalwart]

Louisville was ranked #5 in the Final AP poll before Selection Sunday last year. They received a 4 seed. Poll rankings don't guarantee anything as far as seeding.

WSU is far from controlling its own destiny for a 2 seed. A 2 is still possible, but will significantly depend on other results.

I forgot about that. That's turble.

I guess my real point is just that we are in the top 10 now. We are going to be seeded well and I'm happy. Whether or not its a 2-4 won't change how happy I am really. I will just sit back and see if any upsets happen and root the Shockers on to 30-3!

[ShockTalk]

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll

Those BCS loving turd burglars just did it again!

Today’s AP Poll
WSU – 8 (moved up 3 spots)
KU – 9
UNI – 11 (fell 1 spot)

I say it is time for riots!! WSU (+3) and UNI (-1) actually net a +2 in the polls for playing each other!?!?

Prime example of BCS favoritism at its worst. Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/sarcasm!!!!!

Tip O the Hat, JH4P. I didn't have the faith (still don't) that the voters would not only vote it to be as good as you thought, but better. While I don't agree with the way you presented the post, I know it wasn't aimed at me and my disagreement, but to those who were as equally guilty with their posts and opening the door for it. A quiet post stating it turned out better than you thought and leaving it at that would have be a better "in your face". Others would have been stunned and any negative retort would have made them look even worse. Would be nice for this board if the 2 camps could be civil, but I know it ain't gonna happen.

Louisville was ranked #5 in the Final AP poll before Selection Sunday last year. They received a 4 seed. Poll rankings don't guarantee anything as far as seeding.

WSU is far from controlling its own destiny for a 2 seed. A 2 is still possible, but will significantly depend on other results.

I don't think a 2 will happen without a lot of help. I just hoping to win out and get that 3.

[pogo]

Most on here know me as a guy with the glass half full of rose colored glasses but I really believe we end up as a protected 4 seed. The #8 ranking is great for national exposure but I'm afraid doesn't factor into the seeding picture on the committee that matters.

[shocks771]

Louisville was ranked #5 in the Final AP poll before Selection Sunday last year. They received a 4 seed. Poll rankings don't guarantee anything as far as seeding.

WSU is far from controlling its own destiny for a 2 seed. A 2 is still possible, but will significantly depend on other results.

JH4P, I honestly don't think WSU can do any better than a 3-seed and that's still likely going to be a toss up. Unfortunately our non-con didn't come through for us and the MVC stunk again. That's not new news but if we get the chance to play Illinois State and UNI this weekend and win both that will give us a 3-2 record vs Top 50 opponents and a 9-3 record vs Top 100 opponents. While that is very solid it unfortunately won't compare to likely whoever gets hot and wins the Big 12 Tournament, especially if that's either KU, OU or Baylor.

In order for WSU to get a 3-seed we will need teams like Oklahoma, Maryland, Notre Dame, Iowa State, Baylor, Utah, Louisville, North Carolina, Arkansas and Butler to lose some games to teams they shouldn't this week and then not make runs in their conference tournaments.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if WSU ends up with a 4-seed even if we win in St. Louis this weekend. I'd put our odds at 50/50 for a 3-seed if we win, but in order for those odds to be 50/50 the MVC final has to be against UNI. It sucks, but objectively looking at resumes that's how it will likely shake out.

[shock-it-to-me]

#43 to be exact - 17 teams ahead of them before #25

Yes, but for them to "receive votes" means somebody has them ranked in their top 25.

[Play Angry]

I don't understand why anyone would have Notre Dame ahead of us right now, let alone if we win Arch Madness.

They are 3-4 vs. the Top 50 and 8-5 vs. the Top 100. OOC SOS of 300+ and current SOS of 102. Next game is a road contest @ Louisville.

The Fighting Irish are going to get punished by the Committee and it should surprise nobody.

[shocka khan]

Somebody tweet him the FVV ankle breaker video and ask him if he thought it was cute.

Hell, why doesn't someone just call him and ask him if the slut he was buying all the trinkets for (when he stole the credit cards @ Notre Dame) was cute.

[Play Angry]

Here are some Nitty Gritty criteria from some other competitors in the list posted above by @shocks771.


Oklahoma
vs. Top 50: 9-4
vs. Top 100: 10-6
100+ Losses: 2

This is probably the resume with the most room to move this week with @ Iowa State, vs. Kansas on the slate. Sweep those two games and they very well may cancel out those bad losses and be in a position to be on the 2 or 3 line.


Maryland
vs. Top 50: 6-4
vs. Top 100: 10-5
100+ Losses: None

Nothing to gain and lots to lose between now and the Big Ten Tournament with @ Rutgers and @ Nebraska on tap. This strikes me as a team that needs to win their conference tournament to have a chance at jumping us if we take care of biz in St. Louis.


Iowa State
vs. Top 50: 9-5
vs. Top 100: 12-7
100+ Losses: 1

vs. Oklahoma and @ TCU await the Cyclones this week coming off consecutive losses. Tonight's game against the Sooners is huge for them to stop the bleeding- lose it and the Kharybdis beckons. Dumping half of your last ten games entering the Dance is not a good look and that factor has been emphasized at varying levels in past years.


North Carolina
vs. Top 50: 3-8
vs. Top 100: 9-9
100+ Losses: None

lol no.


Utah
vs. Top 50: 2-5
vs. Top 100: 9-6
100+ Losses: None

No help this week with a road trip to Seattle and Pullman ahead. They have H2H on us but this is a resume that does not stack up unless they win out and take down Arizona in the PAC 12 Tournament. Even then it would be a stretch to slot the Utes ahead of us if we win out.


Butler
vs. Top 50: 5-7
vs. Top 100: 8-7
100+ Losses: 1

vs. Georgetown, @ Providence give them some upward mobility, but unless they run the table Butler looks like a prototypical 5 seed all day long. What am I missing that would ever give pessimism that we could sneak ahead of them?


Arkansas
vs. Top 50: 5-3
vs. Top 100: 9-5
100+ Losses: 1

@ South Carolina, vs. LSU this week followed by an almost assured eventual stomping in the SEC Tournament. I guess you could make an argument for them if they win out until the sequel to their first Wildcat beatdown but RPIForecast and KenPom give that less than a ~1 in 3 chance of happening. DEFCON 2 regarding the pigs' threat level.


I am too lazy to complete the rest but I fail to understand the logic pinning us in a spot where we have to pray for bad, unlikely losses for the teams above in order for us to be seeded above them. 9-3 vs. Top 100 and 3-2 vs. Top 50 with no bad losses would put us in a wonderful place for seeding. Maybe not quite a 2 seed depending on how the dominoes fall, but absolutely worthy of a 3 seed.

*Mandatory it's mostly moot if we don't win St. Louis disclaimer.