2014-15 National Rankings

[WSUwatcher]

I'd much rather we go after kids that end up in the Top 50-100 than who have been there since they were 15 years old.

Some kids are 3*/4*/5* based on their physical maturity to their class, I'd rather have the kids we're getting with 5* intangibles who are waiting to fill out.

They seem to have more to prove as well.

Well said, shizzle. Talent is great, but Marshall's recruits (Ron Baker? Cleanthony Early?) obviously don't lack talent; it just hasn't been recognized, developed, and refined yet under the media microscope. And because he's also a good judge of players' mindsets -- what baseball people call makeup -- e has a knack for recruiting guys with talent AND the attitude you describe of wanting to get better and prove something. Plus, having writers repeat this sort of conventional wisdom is a good way to ensure (not that they need any help) that Marshall and his coaches are just as committed as the players are to showing everybody what WSU's underappreciated program can accomplish.

This kind of stuff is what the Shockers eat for breakfast, and it's why they do what they do these days.

[WuShock Reaper]

"Gregg Marshall's Shockers look to begin a new streak after a historic season. Andy Katz and Seth Greenberg preview Wichita State, the No. 10 team in ESPN.com's preseason Power Rankings."

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11746644&ex_cid=espnapi_public

[shocksrbest]

"Gregg Marshall's Shockers look to begin a new streak after a historic season. Andy Katz and Seth Greenberg preview Wichita State, the No. 10 team in ESPN.com's preseason Power Rankings."



http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=117...espnapi_public

C A N N O T W A I T

[ripemupshocks]

There is very GOOD reason why Marshall's teams rebound so well. They are coached to rebound, they practice it diligently and very intensely. There are no holds barred in the rebounding drills. You better have a man blocked out, or you will benefit from the wrath of more than one coach.

Absolutely. The three keys to success; Organization, Preparation, Dedication, always win.

[WuShock Reaper]

"Arizona or Kentucky: Ahead of AP Top 25, No. 1 question is who is No. 1" _ Sporting News


AP Votes will be released tomorrow.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-10-30/college-basketball-preseason-top-25-arizona-kentucky-ap-sporting-news-poll

[Shock Top]

Shockers #11, in preseason AP Poll

ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25
1. Kentucky
2. Arizona
3. Wisconsin
4. Duke
5. Kansas
6. North Carolina
7. Florida
8. Louisville
9. Virginia
10. Texas
11. Wichita State
12. Villanova
13. Gonzaga
14. Iowa State
15. Virginia Commonwealth
16. San Diego State
17. Connecticut
18. Michigan State
19. Oklahoma
20. Ohio State
21. Nebraska
22. Southern Methodist
23. Syracuse
24. Michigan
25. Harvard
25. Utah

Others Receiving Votes: Stanford (0-0) 71; Iowa (0-0) 58; Colorado (0-0) 57; UCLA (0-0) 35; Minnesota (0-0) 34; Kansas State (0-0) 27; Arkansas (0-0) 21; Pittsburgh (0-0) 20; Memphis (0-0) 15; North Carolina State (0-0) 14; Louisiana Tech (0-0) 9; Cincinnati (0-0) 8; LSU (0-0) 8; George Washington (0-0) 7; Dayton (0-0) 6; Notre Dame (0-0) 6; Oklahoma State (0-0) 6; Florida State (0-0) 5; Georgetown (0-0) 5; Illinois (0-0) 3; Maryland (0-0) 3; Brigham Young (0-0) 2; UNLV (0-0) 2; Baylor (0-0) 1; Stephen F. Austin (0-0) 1; Texas-El Paso (0-0) 1; West Virginia (0-0) 1

[Play Angry]

Nebraska #21, Utah #25...nice.

Also, Colorado is 29th in votes, Memphis is 35th and GW is 40th.

[Cdizzle]

Yeah, this non-con is gonna be legit. Gotta pile up some DUBs!

[Ricardo del Rio]

Shockers are #10 in Ken Pomeroy's preseason ratings.

http://kenpom.com/

UNI - 70
Illinois State - 109
Other MVC teams - >109

[pie n eye]

Call me crazy but I still think #11 is too low for this team. I guess were about to find out.

[Ricardo del Rio]

I love that people are questioning Marshall's ability to land top 50 recruits when he has been consistently beating everyone without them.

Isn't this one of those perfect moments when the establishment needs to just admit that sometimes a great coach doesn't need to do things their way?

What is the point of a top 50 recruit if not to produce final fours and undefeated seasons? Okay, so what was their point again?

One more point: Which is better, recruiting an undiscovered "regular" player and transforming him into one of the best players in the game or recruiting a high level player and just helping him live up to his hype? Which one implies the more talented coach? Marshall's players LEAVE as top 50 players. It matters a whole lot less how they arrived.

Re: High level player - And leave, after one season.

[RoyalShock]

Call me crazy but I still think #11 is too low for this team. I guess were about to find out.

I think anywhere from 10-15 is about right at this point. Once our newcomers in the post get acclimated to D1, I hope we're looking at a top 6 or 7 team.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Talent helps.

[Play Angry]

Sucks that pollspeak shut down due to lack of sponsorship. Loved checking it every Monday.

[Anthroshock]

Sucks that pollspeak shut down due to lack of sponsorship. Loved checking it every Monday.

Oh man, that sucks.