NBC Sports All American Team

[jocoshock]

CLE is second team
http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/

[Play Angry]

Nothing showed up for me on the espn link- here's one to the NBC site's article.

Congrats to Cle!!!

[Dan]

Rafter worthy? Levingston was 3rd team Basketball Times?

[Rlh04d]

Rafter worthy? Levingston was 3rd team Basketball Times?

Will be interesting to see if a Juco player would ever be considered for the rafters. Seems wrong for us to rely so much on Juco players during this historic run under Marshall and still exclude them from that, but I can understand the opposite argument as well.

[ShockerPrez]

Early is definitely a Shocker HOF member.

The rafters.... mmm. Dunno. If we win a NC and he is clearly the man. I may be swayed.

[wsushox1]

Early is definitely a Shocker HOF member.

The rafters.... mmm. Dunno. If we win a NC and he is clearly the man. I may be swayed.

What's it going to take for you people?

I understand the arguments against the "worthiness" of a person but it seems like there are some people on here that expect people in the rafters to average 45+ and 20+ on a 3 time national champion team.

[SHOXAAC]

Is Cle worthy of Cleo, Rave, Cliff, AC & X? Probably not...sorry. Love Cle, but rafters might be a stretch.

[BostonWu]

If we win the whole effin thing then Cle, Fred and Ron will some day be hanging from the rafters.

[wsushox1]

Is Cle worthy of Cleo, Rave, Cliff, AC & X? Probably not...sorry. Love Cle, but rafters might be a stretch.

I don't disagree, but there is no one on this team "worthy" of being listed next to them statistically wise.

So I guess during the greatest 2 year run in program history we aren't going to retire jerseys?

[ShockerPrez]

I don't disagree, but there is no one on this team "worthy" of being listed next to them statistically wise.

So I guess during the greatest 2 year run in program history we aren't going to retire jerseys?

FVV will be. And Im not saying Cle isnt. And its not based on Stats.

The bar is really high, thats all.

Maybe WSU needs to hang a banner with AA accolades...

[Play Angry]

I think Cle deserves it if he lands 1st/2nd/3rd team AP AA.

Nobody penalized Cliff for leaving a year early (his choice), so I think it's silly to penalize Cle for coming in as a JUCO (no choice).

An All American who is the leading scorer on (i) a F4 squad and (ii) the best regular season team in school history probably gets a spot.

[wufan]

I think Cle deserves it if he lands 1st/2nd/3rd team AP AA.

Nobody penalized Cliff for leaving a year early (his choice), so I think it's silly to penalize Cle for coming in as a JUCO (no choice).

An All American who is the leading scorer on (i) a F4 squad and (ii) the best regular season team in school history probably gets a spot.

Agreed. He may not get in right away, but someday he will...and probably sooner rather than later.

[proshox]

He has my vote.

[60Shock]

Just what are the requirements to "reach the rafters?"

At least 3rd team All American?

Outstanding contributions to team and MVC conference awards?

Be a model student and a credit to the University?

Is there a minimum number of years and a minimum number of games required?

Does making significant contributions to your team resulting in reaching two consecutive NCAA tournaments count for anything? Especially considering that no current member meets this distinction.

Just curious.

[wufan]

Having trouble finding the requirements, however Paul Miller was named AP AA Honorable Mention. The first, second, and third teams consisted of 15 total players. There were an additional 47 members on the HM team. Early is one of the top 10 players per the NBC Sport's AA team, which is significantly better. Paul Miller is the only AA (at least since 1950) that doesn't have his Jersey retired.