Top mid-major in a Big 6 conference

[ShockerFever]

How many elite BCS #1 seeds have been dumped from the tournament before the Final Four, or Elite 8, or hell, Sweet 16?

I think our friends up north are familiar with the way this goes too.


WSU losing before the Final Four or Elite 8 doesn't mean the season was a failure and it also doesn't mean mid-majors suck or are garbage.

Unless you consider teams like Kansas to be garbage.

[OTR Shockfan]

How many elite BCS #1 seeds have been dumped from the tournament before the Final Four, or Elite 8, or hell, Sweet 16?

I think our friends up north are familiar with the way this goes too.


WSU losing before the Final Four or Elite 8 doesn't mean the season was a failure and it also doesn't mean mid-majors suck or are garbage.

Unless you consider teams like Kansas to be garbage.

I remember readin an article somewhere that listed that only 54% of all #1 seeds have reached the Final Four. since the tourney expanded to 64 teams

[ABC]

For years Gonzaga has been beating OOC teams early in the season and yet the discussion continues. It is going to take a long time for talking heads to realize that there isn't that big of a difference between teams 25-125.

I've been thinking the exact same thing for a while.

And watching the game at Evansville a week ago and wondering if they are really only the #230 best basketball team in the country? I know many have talked about it, but being in a BCS conference does assist the RPI. So TCU is even worse than their RPI!

[im4wsu]

The records of number one seeds by round

Round	Wins	Losses	Percent
64	116	0	100.00%
32	101	15	87.07%
16	80	21	68.97%
8	47	33	40.52%
4	21	20	23.28%
2	18	9	15.52%

[Metalkatz]

Agreed. That will never change. The beauty, though, is that it's a new day. The name Wichita State will carry a perception not present before. This run and publicity is priceless.

It would be great to make a couple of CWS appearances also! Really get the name out there and let people who don't know that WSU has great athletic programs (just need a new conference)

[molly jabali]

It will be interesting to see SLU's drop in the polls...

[mattdalt]

I remember readin an article somewhere that listed that only 54% of all #1 seeds have reached the Final Four. since the tourney expanded to 64 teams

It may have been 47 out of 104 since the expansion to 64. One of the articles complimenting the SHOX from the media love thread.

[im4wsu]

It may have been 47 out of 104 since the expansion to 64. One of the articles complimenting the SHOX from the media love thread.

2013-1985 + 1 = 29 years * 4 number one seeds = 116
47/116= 40.5% who made it to final 4.

[mattdalt]

2013-1985 + 1 = 29 years * 4 number one seeds = 116
47/116= 40.5% who made it to final 4.

Looks as though you may be more accurate than Mr. Pom's blog :)

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/my_wichita_state_talking_points

[OTR Shockfan]

yah I went and did some research
posted this in another thread too

Since 1979
#1 seed reach FF 56 times 40%
#2 30 21%
#3 16 11%
#4 14 10%
#5 7 .05% last time 2 in 2010
#6 6 .042% 1992
#7 1 .00714% 1984
#8 5 .035%
#9 2 .0142% 1979 and 2013
#10 never
#11 3 .021% 2011
#12-16 never

[OTR Shockfan]

Looks as though you may be more accurate than Mr. Pom's blog :)

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/web...talking_points

My guess is he's taking into account our weaker schedule, which is realistic when compared to other #1's that would have a stronger schedule. You gotta admit, if we were undefeated and had played say 15 top 50 teams it would be a more impressive and stronger argument that WU advances farther.

[OTR Shockfan]

The question isn't is 30-0 good,, It's HOW GOOD is it ? when we get the chance against (better) competition

[ShockerPrez]

I almost pity the first BCS team we play in the tourney.

Its gonna be ugly. I think we will freaking destroy them.

[pie n eye]

It will be interesting to see SLU's drop in the polls...

They have a chance for damage control @ VCU on sat.

[Dave Stalwart]

They have a chance for damage control @ VCU on sat.

Yep. If they win at VCU, they will hardly drop. If they lose, it will be a free fall.

On the other hand, last night a bunch of teams gunning for their spot lost too