YES- Writer argues that A-10 should pursue Wichita State

[pogo]

Well if we played in the A-10 and had those teams come into Koch arena we could probably sell out each time. Oh wait! I too would like to know what the A-10 TV package is compared to the MoValley.

[RoyalShock]

Well if we played in the A-10 and had those teams come into Koch arena we could probably sell out each time. Oh wait! I too would like to know what the A-10 TV package is compared to the MoValley.

It was reported earlier this season that the MVC basically gets no direct revenue from their TV deal and may actually lose money.

Here is the A-10's 8 year deal signed in 2012.

Under the terms of the tv deal, the A-10 receives $40 million over 8 years. That's $5 million a year. There are 16 teams (and at this point, math isn't heading in their favor). $5 million, divided by 16 teams,is $312,500 per team, per year.

$312k is better than nothing, but not a huge deal. However, if you combine that with added NCAA units every year, it could push that number north of $500k.

[CBB_Fan]

I believe the A10 TV deal is $5 million a season, $357,000 per team per year. Currently the MVC pays about $200,000 a year ($14,000 a school) to get content on ESPN. So total the TV package difference is around $370,000. Since we would have higher costs moving to the A10 than Creighton did moving to the Big East (Creighton at least has a few close-ish teams), I think the additional money would not offset travel costs.

[RoyalShock]

I believe the A10 TV deal is $5 million a season, $357,000 per team per year. Currently the MVC pays about $200,000 a year ($14,000 a school) to get content on ESPN. So total the TV package difference is around $370,000. Since we would have higher costs moving to the A10 than Creighton did moving to the Big East (Creighton at least has a few close-ish teams), I think the additional money would not offset travel costs.

I was also able to find that the MVC games on Fox Sports generate $1.5 million per year in ad revenue. But since the games are also produced by the MVC, that amount is probably before production costs are subtracted.

EDIT: Came across this tidbid from a 2012 article about NCAA tournament for the MVC:

Whereas major conferences rake in television money, most of the MVC's TV revenue is offset by expenses. The league was paid $1.4 million in TV rights last year, and Elgin estimated it made $200,000. The previous year the MVC made a net $17,000, according to tax documents.

[Play Angry]

I believe the A10 TV deal is $5 million a season, $357,000 per team per year. Currently the MVC pays about $200,000 a year ($14,000 a school) to get content on ESPN. So total the TV package difference is around $370,000. Since we would have higher costs moving to the A10 than Creighton did moving to the Big East (Creighton at least has a few close-ish teams), I think the additional money would not offset travel costs.

Creighton's additional costs are significantly higher than ours would be due to men's and women's soccer.

[CBB_Fan]

Creighton's additional costs are significantly higher than ours would be due to men's and women's soccer.

I'm assuming an A10 without Saint Louis, leaving us with only flights to the entire conference for every sport. Creighton would have at least SLU, Marquette, DePaul, Xavier, and Butler within decently close range. So while Creighton has extra trips for soccer, we have absolutely zero bus trips and at least one massive trip for track and field (124 athletes) to go the A10 championships.

[Play Angry]

It's disingenuous to list places like Chicago (7+ hours), Milwaukee (7+ hours), Cincinnati (10+ hours), etc. as "decently close" to Omaha, as if that makes a big cost difference when CU is flying their athletes to those locations anyway. Costs in that scenario are dependent on flight routes and whether the destinations are airline hubs, not miles between cities. Additionally, with WSU flying to all but one conference foe as things stand, taking that one bus trip away is not a huge deal.

The fact that people could argue over whether it would be more or less than $250k/yr shows what a non-factor travel costs truly are. Our AD's budget is around $20 million IIRC. We are talking about roughly 1% of that.

[12eagle]

Forget the A-10 too much travel and to many bad teams. We have to get in the AAC. Travel wise it would be awesome. We already recruit the south hard and it would only get easier if we played there too. Also lots of very good to decent baseball programs in the AAC.

[MoValley John]

It's disingenuous to list places like Chicago (7+ hours), Milwaukee (7+ hours), Cincinnati (10+ hours), etc. as "decently close" to Omaha, as if that makes a big cost difference when CU is flying their athletes to those locations anyway. Costs in that scenario are dependent on flight routes and whether the destinations are airline hubs, not miles between cities. Additionally, with WSU flying to all but one conference foe as things stand, taking that one bus trip away is not a huge deal.

The fact that people could argue over whether it would be more or less than $250k/yr shows what a non-factor travel costs truly are. Our AD's budget is around $20 million IIRC. We are talking about roughly 1% of that.

Travel costs are almost always overstated. Travel, as it applies to student athletes, negatively impacts classroom much more than the school's pocketbook

[1972Shocker]

Golf, Tennis, Cross Country, Track, etc. are basically unaffected by a new arrangement since they play on a meet/tournament basis. It's not like we'd be paying to fly a dozen non-revenue sports to play St. Bonaventure's every year.

A slight technicality but Men's and Women's Tennis does play a round robin schedule in MVC play and All-Sports points are based on that play not the post-season conference tournaments. However, their are only 6 programs that play men's tennis and 8 schools that play women's tennis. The question is what kind of schedule does the conference we would move to play. However, I don't think this really has much impact on the travel issue one way or the other. Plus sports like tennis and golf have relatively small numbers on the roster. Now track and field is a different story. The Shocks currently have 60 men and 65 women on the rosters. Not sure how many would travel but it's obvious why you don't have round robin dual meet competitions for T&F.

OT Edit: I will say this. I really admire those kids who put in 4 years on the track & field teams. The distance runners have XC, Indoor and Outdoor seasons. Most everyone else has the Indoor and Outdoor seasons. Injuries can have a major impact.
Furthermore, Coach Rainbolt has 12.6 scholarship equivalents to divvy up among his 60 male athletes and 18 scholarship equivalents to divvy up among his 65 female athletes. And we think the Baseball program has it bad. Furthermore, the track and field teams are a very key component in winning All-Sports Trophies. They represent 6 of the 15 sports in which WSU participates. These kids must really love competing. Kudos to them.

[myopicraiderfan]

An A10 without 2 of STL, Dayton, and VCU is not a conference I would want to be in. At that point the A10 would be marginally better than the valley. I would rather stay in the valley and have closer games for fans. Do you think we would ever see the conference baseball tourney in Wichita if we were part of the A10?

[Play Angry]

Do you think we would ever see the conference baseball tourney in Wichita if we were part of the A10?

I am wondering if we'll ever see it again in the MVC even if we stay.

The league front office hates money when it comes to that event.

[UofMemphis]

Wichita State, UConn, Cincy, Memphis, SMU, Temple, Tulsa, Houston, etc.

Yeah, I'm down with that...WSU would be a great compliment to Navy football only. (esp with Louisville leaving)

[ripemupshocks]

The BIG EAST will NOT be adding Dayton. Dayton and Cincinnati are too close to one another and Xavier will do every thing possible to block them. Since there are other schools that want to block certain schools themselves (Villanova, Georgetown) I don't see schools voting to add someone that a current member wants blocked.

I do firmly believe that SLU will be the next school added to the BIG EAST. If that is the case, an east coast school will be picked to come in with them. The schools on the east do not want more western schools than eastern schools.

Do you think Nova would block St. Joe's? They seem like a natural along with SLU for the BE.

[newshock1234]

Wichita State, UConn, Cincy, Memphis, SMU, Temple, Tulsa, Houston, etc.

Yeah, I'm down with that...WSU would be a great compliment to Navy football only. (esp with Louisville leaving)

That would be a good ass conference