Commennts about Marshall on 810WHB

[jocoshock]

I just tuned in to 810WHB as they were finishing a discussion about Gregg Marshall. I don't know if was just discussion around his new contract, or the tail end of an interview. Was anyone listening?

The comments I heard were nothing of particular note; just the thought process that led him to leave Winthrop for WSU and how that same thought process could potentially motivate him to take a bigger job sometime in the next few years.

What was interesting were Soren Petro's comments. He doesn't want to see Marshall leave WSU. He thinks it great that teams like WSU are having success, the mindset and attitude of teams and fan bases like them, and how it sucks that team like KU won't play them,e except at home.

Most interesting (I had never heard this). His mother is a WSU alum.

[ccrunner101]

I was listening. I think they were just discussing his new contract, and why they didn't think he would be here much longer.

Also said he doesn't think WSU makes the tourney next year, and if they do they will be out in the 1st round. I already tweeted at him about that and said look at our conference and who we have back. I said 90% chance we are in the tourney next year.

Petro's sports radio is my favorite (10x better than ever listening to Bruce and Bob), so I was a little heated about a couple of his comments.

[ccrunner101]

Because it was just rambling I don't know if it will be on the podcasts. I guess we will find out in a couple hours.

[shockmonster]

They said that within 3 seasons, Marshall will leave. Their definition of what is a stepping stone job is different than mine. Within 3 years, he'll have been here for 20 years and we will have had a winning team for 6-7 of those years. Additionally, they didn't seem to know what he is being paid for this job. They talked about him leaving for a job that pays twice as much (they mentioned Nebraska). Schools like Nebraska don't pay 3.4 million for a basketball coach no matter how good. Only blue blood programs will pay that much.

[jocoshock]

They said that within 3 seasons, Marshall will leave. Their definition of what is a stepping stone job is different than mine. Within 3 years, he'll have been here for 20 years and we will have had a winning team for 6-7 of those years. Additionally, they didn't seem to know what he is being paid for this job. They talked about him leaving for a job that pays twice as much (they mentioned Nebraska). Schools like Nebraska don't pay 3.4 million for a basketball coach no matter how good. Only blue blood programs will pay that much.

Those comments about Nebraska, coupled with not knowing what he makes are telling. I am sure Doug Gottlieb will set Soren straight about our NCAA prospects. I don't get too upset about Soren's ignorance about all things not KC, B12, BCS, MLB, or NFL.. You get used to it. He doesn't get paid to talk about anything else. I guess the fact that they talk about WSU at all is a plus...:jaded:

Even if we win the National Championship, he will consider it a fluke and an anomaly.

[Dan]

They said that within 3 seasons, Marshall will leave. Their definition of what is a stepping stone job is different than mine. Within 3 years, he'll have been here for 20 years and we will have had a winning team for 6-7 of those years.

I'm confused. Are you saying Marshall has been our coach for the last 17 years?

[shockmonster]

Edit 20 yrs to 10 yrs.

[KC Shox]

Kevin Keitzman appears to be a little fond of WSU. I remember listening to him discuss WSU during our run and he's all for KU and KSU to start playing WSU. (KK is a KSU alum). The majority of the sports radio personalities up there in KC are pro BCS. I wouldn't say they are anti-Mid, but they certainly do not pay attention to the non-BCS programs and are not well informed about them. I can't blame them, the majority of the listening audience are KSU, KU, MU, Chiefs and Royal fans so I understand they have to tailor their programming to the masses.

[ShockerInKC]

Those comments about Nebraska, coupled with not knowing what he makes are telling. I am sure Doug Gottlieb will set Soren straight about our NCAA prospects. I don't get too upset about Soren's ignorance about all things not KC, B12, BCS, MLB, or NFL.. You get used to it. He doesn't get paid to talk about anything else. I guess the fact that they talk about WSU at all is a plus...:jaded:

Even if we win the National Championship, he will consider it a fluke and an anomaly.

The 810 guys have said they won't talk WSU because the MU KU KSU fans will switch to 610 and listen to the competition.
A while back there was a question regarding the 6 regent schools and between 3 of them they could only come up with KU KSU and Pittsburg state. Mark me down as not surprised.

[SHOCKvalue]

I could spend a great deal of time poking huge, gaping holes into all of the errant suppositions reportedly put forth by these guys - as could any number of SN posters - but I don't feel like explaining the obvious to a forum filled with shocker fans already informed on the same bullet points. I will say though, the Nebraska job and 200% pay increase elsewhere comments are the most egregious, for obvious reasons.

It's as if the most ignorant fans with regards to Shocker basketball reside within our own state - most notably the NE corner. I fully believe I could go to a given metro area in Kentucky, North Carolina, or any number of college basketball conscious population centers, and get a more informed take on our program than I could in NE KS.

The false sense of superiority and narcissism displayed by our KU brethren, and/or the majority of NE KS residents, is an issue that a doctoral candidate in sociology could write an entire dissertation on. It's ridiculous, baseless, and amazing.

[Veritas]

I could spend a great deal of time poking huge, gaping holes into all of the errant suppositions reportedly put forth by these guys - as could any number of SN posters - but I don't feel like explaining the obvious to a forum filled with shocker fans already informed on the same bullet points. I will say though, the Nebraska job and 200% pay increase elsewhere comments are the most egregious, for obvious reasons.

It's as if the most ignorant fans with regards to Shocker basketball reside within our own state - most notably the NE corner. I fully believe I could go to a given metro area in Kentucky, North Carolina, or any number of college basketball conscious population centers, and get a more informed take on our program than I could in NE KS.

The false sense of superiority and narcissism displayed by our KU brethren, and/or the majority of NE KS residents, is an issue that a doctoral candidate in sociology could write an entire dissertation on. It's ridiculous, baseless, and amazing.

I don't think it's KU per se, but rather the KC area which probably has the greatest inferiority complex of all "major league" cities. KC is more missourah than Kansas and their fans reflect that. KC is the worst thing that has ever happened to KU and don't think that KU isn't worried about it. They need to expand their school brand outside of JoCo and KC metro. ksu recognizes that and so does WSU's Bardo who aggressively is pushing for a 10,000 enrollment bump.

[jocoshock]

I could spend a great deal of time poking huge, gaping holes into all of the errant suppositions reportedly put forth by these guys - as could any number of SN posters - but I don't feel like explaining the obvious to a forum filled with shocker fans already informed on the same bullet points. I will say though, the Nebraska job and 200% pay increase elsewhere comments are the most egregious, for obvious reasons.

It's as if the most ignorant fans with regards to Shocker basketball reside within our own state - most notably the NE corner. I fully believe I could go to a given metro area in Kentucky, North Carolina, or any number of college basketball conscious population centers, and get a more informed take on our program than I could in NE KS.

The false sense of superiority and narcissism displayed by our KU brethren, and/or the majority of NE KS residents, is an issue that a doctoral candidate in sociology could write an entire dissertation on. It's ridiculous, baseless, and amazing.

As someone who has lived in Johnson County for more than 25 years now, I couldn't agree more, except to say that you can excuse their ignorance to a degree - they do live in a bubble, no make that a cocoon, originally built to house Titan II nuclear missiles. What was more upsetting to me when I lived in Wichita were the KU and KState fans who either lived in Wichita or grew up in Wichita who pretended to be equally ignorant, AND EVEN MORE ARROGANT.

And I would add, that this is not by mistake. The roots in this are by design and designed by the school administrations. Pretend WSU does not exist, and after 2 or 3 generations, they won't; at least in the minds of potential students and fans....

[jocoshock]

I don't think it's KU per se, but rather the KC area which probably has the greatest inferiority complex of all "major league" cities. KC is more missourah than Kansas and their fans reflect that. KC is the worst thing that has ever happened to KU and don't think that KU isn't worried about it. They need to expand their school brand outside of JoCo and KC metro. ksu recognizes that and so does WSU's Bardo who aggressively is pushing for a 10,000 enrollment bump.

Not sure about that. There are something like 60,000 KU alum in KC. Far more than Mizzou or KSU. When I first moved in here in 1986, the alumni count for KU, MIzzou, and KSU was 40,000, 15,000, and 9,000 respectively, There are lots of jobs for KU graduates in the KC area and it keeps those alums close to Lawrence, so they can all drive to the games. I do agree though that outside NEK, KU is starting to hurt. I recently saw some statistics that indicated that KState significantly out polled KU as the top choice for graduating HS seniors as their destination school.

[ShockerFever]

They said that within 3 seasons, Marshall will leave. Their definition of what is a stepping stone job is different than mine. Within 3 years, he'll have been here for 20 years and we will have had a winning team for 6-7 of those years. Additionally, they didn't seem to know what he is being paid for this job. They talked about him leaving for a job that pays twice as much (they mentioned Nebraska). Schools like Nebraska don't pay 3.4 million for a basketball coach no matter how good. Only blue blood programs will pay that much.

What an ignoramus.

[jocoshock]

Here's the podcast if anyone is interested. Conversation starts at 18:00 and runs about 9 minutes...

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=1903073