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I like DWill's game. I think Malcomb may have a shoot at a professional career. BUT wow....Fred is the MAN at the point!!! Sure he'll hit a slump somewhere, but man he see's the floor exactly how the GREAT point guards are supposed to see the floor!!! Love it!!! Go Shocks!!!
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FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013
NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021
NIT Champs - 1 (2011)
AP Poll History of Wichita St:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)
Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014
Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
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Maybe I'm reading too much into one outstanding performance, but here's what I thought I saw.
FVV attacked the D - both man and zone - with dribble penetration. He's got uncanny start-stop ability, he can go herky-jerky, and he's got great acceleration and direction changes. I was reminded of Barry Sanders.
He wasn't getting open looks at the hoop very often, but he was getting open looks to make entry passes to front court guys. Most PG's dribble across the top if they can't make an open entry pass. FVV attacks until he's in a position to make the entry pass. FVV creates open looks for passes. If the D makes a mistake when FVV is driving to make a pass, he'll just take it to the hoop.
Give FVV some time to work woith players and look out! Two yers from now. Here are some players and their number of full years with FVV
Wessel - 3
Green - 2
Baker - 2
Watson - 1
Morris - 1
FVV/Wessel/Baker/Green looks like a pretty good core for a team.
Edit: I forgot Cotton - 3 yearsLast edited by Aargh; February 15, 2013, 12:32 AM.The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
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Fred, Evan and Ron will be the smartest and highest BBIQ in the conference next year by a mile.
They'll also be the best group. With Cle and KC they should run through the Valley like **** through a goose.Comment
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I think the FVV-Steve Nash comparison is a pretty good one. They both are so good at sliding off a ball screen and cutting towards the lane, followed by either a dish or an easy finish.
I would be interested in hearing comparisons from the older and wiser posters on this board: when was the last time we had a true point guard with a skill set comparable to FVV? My memory goes as far back as Joe Griffin and IMO we haven't had a guy capable of carving up a defense like Fred does in the last 25 years. Ragland was a very good PG but he was not particularly strong with the ball/most of his upside came from his shooting accuracy; Hannah was much slower than FVV; Brauer was a fan favorite but not even close in terms of ability; Griffin was good (especially as a freshman) but still not in FVV's league.Comment
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I'm giddy about next year. We could be scary good. Probably the most talent WSU has put on the court at one time in 30 years.Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post"It's amazing to watch Ron slide into that open area, Fred will find him and it's straight cash homie."--HCGMComment
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Are we talking about Kevin Nash?
I think I'd rather call him The Big Sexy than freshvv, the general or anything else :)Comment
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I hope we are talking Steve Nash basketball superstar PG and not Kevin Nash wrestling entertainment star. (it's not real people, buy a clue) I would be all for FVV girlfriend(s) calling him the Big Sexy, if that's what he wants.Originally posted by DJ06Shocker View PostComment
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He almost had a double double. I cannot remember the last Shocker to get a dd on pts and assists. Perez maybe?
FVV is the real deal. We all knew he was the real deal. It was just a matter of time before the college game clicked for him.
It looks like it clicked....."When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!Comment
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On the post game show they mentioned it was like 9 years ago.Originally posted by ShockerPrez View PostComment
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One game...
And you're comparing him to one of the all time great NBA players? Wow, those are some 'pop bottle thick' rose colored glasses.Originally posted by GoShockers89 View Post
He is a Freshman who had a really good game against a marginal Valley team.
Hey, I'm a big admirer of his talents and potential.
But let's not elect him to the Shocker Hall of Fame just yet.
That is all.Above all, make the right call.Comment
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Here are some near points/assists double-double efforts:
Joe Ragland went 25 and 6 last year.
Joe Ragland went 24 and 6 last year.
Toure Murry went 11 and 8 against UNLV last year.
Toure Murry went 10 and 7 in 2010/2011.
Toure Murry went 11 and 7 in 2010/2011.
Joe Ragland went 14 and 9 in 2010/2011 (against Creighton).
Demetric Williams went 7 and 10 in 2010/2011.
Clevin Hannah went 12 and 8 in 2009/2010.
Clevin Hannah went 13 and 9 in 2009/2010.
Clevin Hannah went 14 and 8 in 2008/2009.
Clevin Hannah went 14 and 7 in 2008/2009.
Gal Mekel went 20 and 7 in 2007/2008 against Creighton.
Gal Mekel went 10 and 7 in 2007/2008.
Gal Mekel went 11 and 7 in 2007/2008.
Gal Mekel went 15 and 9 in 2007/2008.
Matt Braeuer went 7 and 10 in 2006/2007.
Matt Braeuer went 10 and 8 in 2006/2007.
Matt Braeuer went 7 and 10 in 2006/2007.
Matt Braeuer went 11 and 7 in 2004/2005.
P.J. Cousinard went 15 and 7 in 2006/2007.
P.J. Cousinard went 10 and 7 in 2006/2007.
That's as far back as I am going. I ran out of steam.Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Surprised to see Mekel with four entries on that list. Those were some very nice lines.Shocker Nation, NYCComment
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Fridge was the last Shocker to get an assists double-double. It was on 2/18/04 and he had 23 points and 11 assists and the Shox lost to UNI 80-85.Comment
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