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  • 2012-2013 Shocker Men's Prouty Ratings

    Here is the formula used to get the Prouty Ratings.

    Prouty Rating = [Offensive Efficiency + Total Offense + Possessions Gained + Win Rating] / 4

    Offensive Efficiency = TP / (FGA*2 + FTA)
    Total Offense = (TP + A*2 - TO) / Player MIN
    Possessions Gained = (REB + S + BLK/2 - PF) / Player MIN
    Win Rating = Player MIN / (Team MIN / 5) * (Wins / Game #)

    And here is the grading that was used previously:

    534
    500
    467
    434
    400
    367
    334
    300
    267
    234
    200
    >
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    <
    566
    566
    533
    499
    466
    433
    399
    366
    333
    299
    266
    233
    200
    A+
    A
    A-
    B+
    B
    B-
    C+
    C
    C-
    D+
    D
    D-
    F

  • #2
    Always good stuff to see '79, I appreciate the work you put into this each season.

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    • #3
      A lot of this seasons games will be slow to update, if at all, but I'll do what I can.

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      • #4
        Wichita State vs North Carolina Central University Prouty Ratings

        Player

        Baker
        Hall
        Early
        Wessel
        VanVleet
        Orukpe
        Cotton
        Armstead
        White
        Williams
        Lufile
        Wiggins
        TEAM
        NCCU
        Game

        0.594
        0.584
        0.470
        0.459
        0.367
        0.363
        0.349
        0.348
        0.2924
        0.2917
        0.038
        -0.004
        0.548
        All
        Games

        0.594
        0.584
        0.470
        0.459
        0.367
        0.363
        0.349
        0.348
        0.2924
        0.2917
        0.038
        -0.004
        0.548

        Grade

        A+
        A+
        B+
        B
        C
        C
        C
        C
        D+
        D+
        F
        F
        A
        Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
        Best game rating of the season
        Best overall rating of the season
        Played less than 1 minute
        Last edited by 1979Shocker; January 9, 2013, 10:30 PM.

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        • #5
          Wichita State vs Virginia Commonwealth Prouty Ratings

          Player

          Hall
          Baker
          Early
          Armstead
          Wessel
          White
          Orukpe
          VanVleet
          Williams
          Cotton
          Lufile
          Wiggins
          TEAM
          VCU
          Game

          0.464
          0.380
          0.421
          0.505
          0.257
          0.756
          0.366
          0.131
          0.261
          0.172
          -----
          -----
          0.461
          All
          Games

          0.516
          0.484
          0.444
          0.442
          0.362
          0.331
          0.311
          0.285
          0.258
          0.256
          0.019
          -0.023
          0.505

          Grade

          A-
          B+
          B
          B
          C
          C-
          C-
          D+
          D
          D
          F
          F
          A-
          Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
          Best game rating of the season
          Best overall rating of the season
          Played less than 1 minute
          Last edited by 1979Shocker; January 9, 2013, 10:31 PM.

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          • #6
            Wichita State vs Western Carolina University Prouty Ratings

            Player

            Early
            Hall
            Baker
            Wessel
            Armstead
            Orukpe
            VanVleet
            Williams
            White
            Cotton
            Lufile
            Wiggins
            TEAM
            WCU
            Game

            0.693
            0.521
            0.363
            0.490
            0.313
            0.415
            0.384
            0.380
            0.300
            0.383
            0.347
            0.263
            0.569
            All
            Games

            0.527
            0.515
            0.457
            0.411
            0.399
            0.341
            0.335
            0.296
            0.285
            0.277
            0.248
            0.148
            0.526

            Grade

            A-
            A-
            B
            B-
            C+
            C
            C
            D+
            D+
            D+
            D
            F
            A-
            Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
            Best game rating of the season
            Best overall rating of the season
            Played less than 1 minute
            Last edited by 1979Shocker; January 9, 2013, 10:31 PM.

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            • #7
              Wichita State vs Howard University Prouty Ratings

              Player

              Hall
              Early
              Baker
              Wessel
              Williams
              Armstead
              Lufile
              White
              Orukpe
              VanVleet
              Cotton
              Wiggins
              TEAM
              HU
              Game

              0.490
              0.340
              0.439
              0.464
              0.690
              0.081
              0.450
              0.348
              -0.013
              0.225
              0.206
              0.386
              0.515
              All
              Games

              0.507
              0.485
              0.452
              0.424
              0.404
              0.355
              0.338
              0.301
              0.290
              0.288
              0.252
              0.251
              0.523

              Grade

              A-
              B+
              B
              B-
              B-
              C
              C
              C-
              D+
              D+
              D
              D
              A-
              Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
              Best game rating of the season
              Best overall rating of the season
              Played less than 1 minute
              Last edited by 1979Shocker; January 9, 2013, 10:32 PM.

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              • #8
                Wichita State vs DePaul University Prouty Ratings

                Player

                Hall
                Early
                Williams
                Baker
                Armstead
                Wessel
                Lufile
                White
                VanVleet
                Orukpe
                Wiggins
                Cotton
                TEAM
                DU
                Game

                0.501
                0.458
                0.503
                0.259
                0.547
                0.325
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                0.359
                0.270
                0.158
                0.288
                0.285
                0.513
                All
                Games

                0.502
                0.478
                0.430
                0.424
                0.411
                0.407
                0.331
                0.313
                0.281
                0.258
                0.256
                0.251
                0.520

                Grade

                A-
                B+
                B-
                B-
                B-
                B-
                C-
                C-
                D+
                D
                D
                D
                A-
                Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
                Best game rating of the season
                Best overall rating of the season
                Played less than 1 minute
                Last edited by 1979Shocker; January 9, 2013, 10:32 PM.

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                • #9
                  Wichita State vs University of Iowa Prouty Ratings

                  Player

                  Early
                  Hall
                  Armstead
                  Williams
                  Wessel
                  Baker
                  Lufile
                  Cotton
                  Orukpe
                  White
                  Wiggins
                  VanVleet
                  TEAM
                  UI
                  Game

                  0.608
                  0.414
                  0.537
                  0.150
                  0.272
                  0.233
                  0.306
                  0.563
                  0.519
                  0.013
                  0.474
                  0.175
                  0.527
                  All
                  Games

                  0.504
                  0.489
                  0.436
                  0.404
                  0.3889
                  0.3886
                  0.330
                  0.307
                  0.297
                  0.285
                  0.283
                  0.268
                  0.522

                  Grade

                  A-
                  B+
                  B
                  B-
                  C+
                  C+
                  C-
                  C-
                  D+
                  D+
                  D+
                  D
                  A-
                  Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
                  Best game rating of the season
                  Best overall rating of the season
                  Played less than 1 minute
                  Last edited by 1979Shocker; January 9, 2013, 10:32 PM.

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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      Wichita State vs Tulsa University Prouty Ratings

                      Player

                      Hall
                      Early
                      Armstead
                      Baker
                      Wessel
                      Williams
                      VanVleet
                      Lufile
                      Cotton
                      Wiggins
                      White
                      Orukpe
                      TEAM
                      TU
                      Game

                      0.611
                      0.434
                      0.353
                      0.560
                      0.497
                      0.375
                      0.661
                      0.397
                      0.427
                      0.481
                      0.501
                      -----
                      0.596
                      All
                      Games

                      0.501
                      0.492
                      0.424
                      0.409
                      0.406
                      0.398
                      0.346
                      0.340
                      0.328
                      0.309
                      0.305
                      0.283
                      0.532

                      Grade

                      A-
                      B+
                      B-
                      B-
                      B-
                      C+
                      C
                      C
                      C-
                      C-
                      C-
                      D+
                      A-
                      Team Winning Percentage: 1.000
                      Best game rating of the season
                      Best overall rating of the season
                      Played less than 1 minute
                      Last edited by 1979Shocker; January 9, 2013, 10:33 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Maybe we should make sure Carl is sick for every game.

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                        • #13
                          How about a defensive efficiency rating? :)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by vancedave56 View Post
                            How about a defensive efficiency rating? :)
                            You'd have to come up with a formula that included defensive rebounds, steals, blocks, and forced turnovers, etc. Currently, the Prouty rating includes all rebounds and blocks, steals, and personal fouls as part of possessions gained, which is 1/4 of the Prouty rating.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
                              You'd have to come up with a formula that included defensive rebounds, steals, blocks, and forced turnovers, etc. Currently, the Prouty rating includes all rebounds and blocks, steals, and personal fouls as part of possessions gained, which is 1/4 of the Prouty rating.
                              Unfortunately, these statistics do not really reflect a player's defensive skills and abilities, at least that lead to any meaningful ranking. A rebound, for example, has little or nothing to do with the rebounder's defensive ability -- most likely, it was a teammate that provided the defense that resulted in the opportunity for a rebound (a missed shot). A block is fun to watch, but unless the blocker or a teammate retrieves the errant ball, the block of a player shooting a out-of-position shot may result in an even better in-bounds play for the opposing team.

                              A steal may well resemble some form of defense, but a player with 3.0 steals per game may leave his man open for easy shots if he makes 15 wild attempts to steal the ball and misses on 12 of them. Personal fouls likewise often reflect the player making up for a teammates mistake and sometimes is a very positive situation (preventing a layup and having the big guy miss one or both of the free throws.

                              A steal is credited to player A of Team A batting the ball from an opponent in control if Team A obtains possession of the batted ball. There is no steal credited if the opponents retain the ball (as it should be). Player A might bat or deflect 25 balls a game and have zero steals credited, while teammate B may bat one single ball that results in possession and be credited with one steal, but may let his opponent dribble by him for easy layups 10 times during the game. The stats would show Player B as the better defender. That, I think, is why 3G counts "deflections." I heard that he wants 45 deflections per game. Theory, if nothing else, 45 deflections are going to disrupt the flow and some may result in turnovers and/or steals.
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