WSU (9-11, 1-6) at Tulsa ( 2-5, 11-8) Game Thread

[Dan]

Do we get an early draft pick if we lose out?

Hoping we can get 11 more scholarships to dole out

[Seagull]

I’ve been a longtime Shocker fan, but this has to be the most disappointing and disgusting performance I can remember. These second half meltdowns are ridiculous. Come on Mills, earn your salary. Recognize the opponents adjustments. Do something about it! When put in charge, take charge!

[Kung Wu]

We got beat by a team with a player who gets NIL from Pilsbury.

[asiseeit]

Anyone that reads my posts knows I've been pretty negative. Lots of negativity from the posts I have been reading. Ya know what? I saw a lot of positives tonight we just can't seem to sustain in the second half. Our offensive flow and movement was outstanding the first half. The two point gimmee with two seconds left was a damaging dagger. The FT difference was ridiculous and probably THE biggest difference. Can't get close to Haggerty or you get called. We WILL beat them here without the heavy ref influence. I love QB's defense but surely anyone can see how much more efficiently the offense runs with KP. Would still like to see them in together again. Keepers are XB ( BC is terrible and a waste of a schollie ) , HB, KP and QB !!!!!!!!!!! Good nucleus if we can retain. Need two new perimeter makers, a solid PG and a decent younger portal center. Center is and will be our strength if we can keep them. I know everyone is pissed but I am encouraged for the first time in awhile. I think we win TWO in Ft. Worth...............maybe three ! The team is improving. Go Shocks.

[Topshock]

I love QB's defense but surely anyone can see how much more efficiently the offense runs with KP. Would still like to see them in together again. Keepers are XB ( BC is terrible ) , HB, KP and QB !!!!!!!!!!! Good nucleus if we can retain. Need two new perimeter makers, a PG and a decent younger portal center. Center is and will be our strength if we can keep them.s.

I think only you see that. It ran so well with him in the game that we had perhaps the worst half in recent memory. He is one of the softest, weakest; both physically and mentally players I have ever seen.

[Dan]

If we return all those guys we’ll be just as bad next year. We need a talent upgrade. Tulsa has freshmen better than our juniors. We need multiple guys that can handle the ball and shoot the 3. Plus a few bigs.

[Aargh]

Maybe we can beat UTSA, since we seem to have their best player from last year rotting on our bench.

Maybe.

Second half minutes (each) for Ballard and Ridgnal - 6

Second half rebounding

Tulsa - 22
WSU - 13

[ShockerFever]

Snatched a 15 point lead from the jaws of victory against an opponent as equally awful as us.

[Shockerlady]

If we return all those guys we’ll be just as bad next year. We need a talent upgrade. Tulsa has freshmen better than our juniors. We need multiple guys that can handle the ball and shoot the 3. Plus a few bigs.

Talent upgrades will only happen when our NIL improves. We got what we paid for.

[pinstripers]

Maybe we can beat UTSA, since we seem to have their best player from last year rotting on our bench.

Maybe.

Second half minutes (each) for Ballard and Ridgnal - 6

Second half rebounding

Tulsa - 22
WSU - 13

Won the first half using those two guys

[BAShocker]

If I had a dollar for each time Haggerty palmed the ball, I could donate a $10,000 to NIL. I mean seriously, he gained such an advantage, then naturally we breathe on him, and we get called for a foul. Other end if the court, we get hammered…no call.

[asiseeit]

I think only you see that. It ran so well with him in the game that we had perhaps the worst half in recent memory. He is one of the softest, weakest; both physically and mentally players I have ever seen.

Hmmmmm, I had KP for three assists and one TO ( one of DR's bad passes that KP couldn't control was charged to KP look at the tape ), he was 5-7 FG's and played good D and you think HE was the problem? I am not knocking QB one bit, believe me, I like coachs sub pattern with the two. THEY are NOT our problem. BC is horrible. FT's were the biggest difference. Rogers is not good for our offensive flow. Ball gets stuck in his hands. We didn't have a single starter with a free throw while their starters had TWNETY TWO. THERE was the difference in the game !!!!!!!!!!

[Maizerunner08]

Woof. Another L. Missed the game but wasn’t shocked by the outcome.

[Dan]

Talent upgrades will only happen when our NIL improves. We got what we paid for.

I don’t buy it. Tulsa isn’t buying players. We need to do a better job evaluating players that can play and want to play at WSU. We aren’t going to be able to buy players and compete with Memphis on that front but we can compete against teams like UNT, who also aren’t buying players.

[BAShocker]

Hoping after the season, Mills finally admits that he way underestimated the type of player he needs at WSU. There has to be no other logical explanation. He just either got portal lazy or was way off the mark.

I guess he also could have out all his portal eggs in the Abmas basket, and came up empty.