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  • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
    If you could turn back the clock knowing what you know now who would have rolled the dice with IB another year?
    Absolutely.

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    • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
      If you could turn back the clock knowing what you know now who would have rolled the dice with IB another year?
      Yes.

      Isaac Brown year 1. Won the AAC. Yes, we got lucky a few games. I recall a few key games were cancelled when the opposing team tested positive for covid, allowing us to maintain our lead in the conference. That said, every team in the league was playing by the same rules, and we still won. Shot craps in the postseason, though.

      Year 2. Decent start, then started falling apart. Year ended bad. No sign of player development or growth.

      Year 3. Started terrible. Around midway through the season, though, there were signs of improvement. This is based on the eye test, and more specifically, my eyes. I think this was probably the first Isaac Brown team that ended the season looking better than it started the season. Given this, I think there was at least some argument for giving him a year 4, especially given the buyout clause in his contract.

      Given the prompt in your question - that I have the gift of seeing into the future and know that Mills will be the next coach and how the first two years of his tenure will go - I hold onto Brown one more year and see how it will go, with the added benefit of it being much cheaper to fire him at the end of his fourth year.
      Last edited by rjl; 2 weeks ago.
      The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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      • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
        If you could turn back the clock knowing what you know now who would have rolled the dice with IB another year?
        That's a no brainer .. most even said it back then once the Mills hire was announced. 95% chance Mills would have been available still the next year anyways. There was even tangible improvement by the end of that season that gave a little hope. He wasn't likely going to be the long term savior but sure felt like the right choice was to wait until the buyout lowered.

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        • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

          That's a no brainer .. most even said it back then once the Mills hire was announced. 95% chance Mills would have been available still the next year anyways. There was even tangible improvement by the end of that season that gave a little hope. He wasn't likely going to be the long term savior but sure felt like the right choice was to wait until the buyout lowered.
          Don't tell our resident Gloom/Doom guy that...he seems to hate IB with a passion..
          Was IB the longterm answer? Probs not....Was the JOE PLEASANT over RCIV a wise look...again, probs not...but there WAS improvement BUT Saal obviously wanted to make his own splashy hire with....Paul Mills?

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          • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
            If you could turn back the clock knowing what you know now who would have rolled the dice with IB another year?
            No. The trend line may not be good but with IB the trendline might have bankrupted the athletic department.

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            • I just watched Coach Mills press conference in which he discussed the loss to UMKC and the upcoming game against KSU. I get that he is not popular due to his laidback demeanor and aw shucks way of speaking but he talked about entitled athletes and I think that also applies to us fans.

              Coach Mills does a whole lot correctly. He deserves credit for quality out of bounds and the set plays that the team runs. We do have some good players. I hope that they continue to improve during conference play and the injured guys get back into it. I suspect that we will have around 4 conference losses and be in contention for the NIT.

              Anyway, Happy Holidays to everyone and I certainly hope for a joyful conference season.

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              • We need to hope we have an angel donor step in and let us make a move after this year. If we have to wait until after next year, it means Mills will get to replace 80% of this roster. He's shown he's not capable of that.

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                • Here's what we do.

                  We get Gregg Marshall back.

                  And we recruit one really dumb kid and pay him a bunch of NIL money just to take a hit every now and then. He doesn't even need to know jack about basketball. When Marshall gets mad and pops his top, he gets to hit the dumb kid.
                  The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                  • Can Mills be the dumb kid?
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                    • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                      Can Mills be the dumb kid?
                      He certainly shows promise!
                      The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                      • Change the thread title again. If WSU had money, or at least didn't have the Brown and Marshall payments, Mills' seat would be white hot right now.

                        The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                        • Originally posted by WeWillShockU2 View Post
                          I just watched Coach Mills press conference in which he discussed the loss to UMKC and the upcoming game against KSU. I get that he is not popular due to his laidback demeanor and aw shucks way of speaking but he talked about entitled athletes and I think that also applies to us fans.

                          Coach Mills does a whole lot correctly. He deserves credit for quality out of bounds and the set plays that the team runs. We do have some good players. I hope that they continue to improve during conference play and the injured guys get back into it. I suspect that we will have around 4 conference losses and be in contention for the NIT.

                          Anyway, Happy Holidays to everyone and I certainly hope for a joyful conference season.
                          Surely the effects of spiked holiday egg nog...

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                          • So you’re PM, supposedly a high character guy.

                            So Paul, why don’t you do the gentleman thing and give back about 75% of your paycheck? That 25% is more than you are actually worth anyway.

                            Geez this is going to be a loonnngggg couple of years.

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                            • "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                              • The seat is hot now. If someone has a defense of this coaching, I’d love to hear the spin.

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