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  • Mills is brilliant. Sandbagging the season to make a run in march. And when he gets back from his run he’ll tune into march madness from his couch.
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    Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
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    • Fire this bum. Bet we go winless the rest of the way

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      • We don't have the dough to pay 3 coaches at once but if we finish dead last that will put ADKS in an awkward position.

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        • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post
          We don't have the dough to pay 3 coaches at once but if we finish dead last that will put ADKS in an awkward position.
          We finished tied for last last year ... what's two years in a row?

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          • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post
            We don't have the dough to pay 3 coaches at once but if we finish dead last that will put ADKS in an awkward position.
            Are we not already in an awkward position? ADKS needs to go beg for money because the programs arguably in a worse state than before as a result of his decision. Gotta fix it.

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            • Both Mills and Saal should give about 80% of their salaries to Wheatshock Collective, not that Mills could coach that talent.

              I also hope for Mills’s sake, he saves his money and is a good investor. I don’t see him ever getting another D1 coaching job after this one. Maybe someone in the 300 NET would hire him, but I just don’t see it.

              Two huge swings and misses by Saal on hires. Mens and Womens basketball coaches are crushing the athletic department. If you listen to this week’s press conference by Mills, he doesn’t even sound like he wants to be here…imo. He doesn’t embrace Wichita, and the program’s history.

              Listen to the podcast with Green (baseball), and listen to the difference between him and Mills. It’s night and day.

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              • Originally posted by BAShocker View Post
                Both Mills and Saal should give about 80% of their salaries to Wheatshock Collective, not that Mills could coach that talent.

                I also hope for Mills’s sake, he saves his money and is a good investor. I don’t see him ever getting another D1 coaching job after this one. Maybe someone in the 300 NET would hire him, but I just don’t see it.

                Two huge swings and misses by Saal on hires. Mens and Womens basketball coaches are crushing the athletic department. If you listen to this week’s press conference by Mills, he doesn’t even sound like he wants to be here…imo. He doesn’t embrace Wichita, and the program’s history.

                Listen to the podcast with Green (baseball), and listen to the difference between him and Mills. It’s night and day.
                Your line about Saal's swings and misses...rings true...I've never TOTALLY understood why AD's are in such a rush to get 'their guy'....

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                • Did we interview anybody else?

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                  • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                    Did we interview anybody else?
                    Here's what I recall:

                    Turgeon claims he was offered the job and rejected it. The timing of his statement indicates that this was the first move Saal made after firing Brown. There was also rumor that the school had reached out to Marshall to ask him to re-do his settlement into lower payments over a longer time in order to afford what it wanted to offer Turgeon. It's a lot of hearsay, but the genesis of these rumors - if the story is believed - is someone close to Marshall.

                    Devries also at some point stated that the school was not offering enough money.

                    So, there's two people.

                    If that all is true, Saal got caught in a brown noise situation when the people he had in mind when he fired Brown weren't coming.

                    Not even in the wild ranging opinions, rumors, and theories of Shockernet posters was Mills ever a consideration. I'm thinking Mills was way down the list and the Temu coach we could afford.
                    The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                    • 1.3 wasn't enough to snag Devries ?

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                      • Originally posted by pinstripers View Post
                        1.3 wasn't enough to snag Devries ?
                        He wasn't making much at Drake, but probably knew he could hold out for a big payday. He's making an average of $3 million per year at West Virginia now.
                        The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                        • Originally posted by rjl View Post
                          There was also rumor that the school had reached out to Marshall to ask him to re-do his settlement into lower payments over a longer time in order to afford what it wanted to offer Turgeon. It's a lot of hearsay, but the genesis of these rumors - if the story is believed - is someone close to Marshall.

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                          • I feel pretty confident that little Sampson and Griffin would both have had more success and could have been had.

                            Sampson is probably off the table now considering the state of the program. He'll get a better chance somewhere else.

                            Griffin still might be available. Not sure what he's currently up to.

                            I haven't bothered looking into what could be out there as it's pretty pointless considering I think most of us believe Mills will get at least one more year to bury us even further. At this point, I'm wonder how we would do in the Summit with Mills and this group.
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                            • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post


                              I obviously don't know the details, because the original "source" of the rumors purportedly wasn't giving much, but my guess is it would have resulted in more money overall going to Marshall. For any contract (that's really what a settlement agreement is: a contract) there has to be consideration given. So, for Marshall to enter into a new contract regarding his settlement, Marshall was going to have to get something in return. Marshall was probably going to get more money overall, but it would just take longer for him to get it.
                              Last edited by rjl; 3 hours ago.
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                              • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                                I feel pretty confident that little Sampson and Griffin would both have had more success and could have been had.

                                Sampson is probably off the table now considering the state of the program. He'll get a better chance somewhere else.

                                Griffin still might be available. Not sure what he's currently up to.

                                I haven't bothered looking into what could be out there as it's pretty pointless considering I think most of us believe Mills will get at least one more year to bury us even further. At this point, I'm wonder how we would do in the Summit with Mills and this group.
                                From what I remember in the Shockernet coach speculation thread, we were all interested in Sampson, Griffin, and Abdur-Rahim. Mills was mentioned in that thread IIRC, but I don't recall anyone wanting him.
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