Paul Mills Room Temperature Seat

[rjl]

I had always assumed that if we were going to make the move last year instead of this year, we would only do it if we had a home run hire lined up. That wasn't the case.

If I remember right, by firing him last year we owed him 100% of the rest of the contract (3 years). After this season it would have been 50% of the remaining (so realistically a net 1 year). I still say moving on from HCIB was the right move. It's very TBD if the move after that was the right one

I agree 100%. I don't recall anyone being jazzed when we didn't announce a new coach within days of Brown being shown the door, and even less jazzed when Mills was announced as the guy.

This was after rumors of DeVries saying "not enough money." After rumors of Turgeon saying "no thanks." Who knows if those rumors are true.

Regardless, we all knew we were in for a rebuild. Don't think anyone though that the first step would be taking it all below ground level.

[Onegreatracer]

Embarrassing to see this thread name on the front page. Embarrassing look for us. Smh

[Stickboy46]

Embarrassing to see this thread name on the front page. Embarrassing look for us. Smh

Would you rate it more or less embarrassing than the product on the court?

[BostonWu]

He's got 3 years. That's when Marshall, Brown, and Wedge are off the payroll. If things aren't drastically improved by then he's three and out

Seems reasonable when IB got 3

[shock]

Would you rate it more or less embarrassing than the product on the court?

I think that depends on the standard someone holds for Shockernet. SN used to be known as a group of fans that really knew basketball. Lately we look like Phog.net in that regard.

[Onegreatracer]

Would you rate it more or less embarrassing than the product on the court?

Doesn't matter. Regardless of how Mills performs this year:

If he at least has some support from the fanbase, he may succeed

If he doesn't, he won't. 0% chance.


The coaching decisions today were not good. No argument from me there. But there has been some good coaching this season without a doubt. And having a thread talking about a new coach being on "the hot seat" 6ish months in is effing ridiculous. Shocker fans are better than that

[Onegreatracer]

I think that depends on the standard someone holds for Shockernet. SN used to be known as a group of fans that really knew basketball. Lately we look like Phog.net in that regard.

This

[Stickboy46]

Doesn't matter. Regardless of how Mills performs this year:

If he at least has some support from the fanbase, he may succeed

If he doesn't, he won't. 0% chance.


The coaching decisions today were not good. No argument from me there. But there has been some good coaching this season without a doubt. And having a thread talking about a new coach being on "the hot seat" 6ish months in is effing ridiculous. Shocker fans are better than that

Posts on Shockernet have zero impact on the program. I agree he needs support. That's financial and attendance support. I don't think the people complaining on here are the ones that will stop donating or going. The causal fan... Which is not your shockernet audience... Will absolutely stop going and donating when there is an embarrassing product on the court.

[pinstripers]

What is the contract? How many years? How many dollars per year?

[Stickboy46]

What is the contract? How many years? How many dollars per year?

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article273595485.html

5 year 8.5 million plus other incentives.

[rjl]

What is the contract? How many years? How many dollars per year?

It's a 5-year contract worth about $8.5 million total.

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article273595485.html

$1.25mm this year, which would put him at #68 on last year's list:

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach

Isaac Brown was getting $1mm on that list (can't remember if that's accurate).

[rjl]

Embarrassing to see this thread name on the front page. Embarrassing look for us. Smh

As has been stated in this thread, nobody is advocating that Mills goes now. But this topic is about taking the rose colored glasses off and having a real discussion about how this team is not even meeting the minimal expectations we had for this season. We are all hoping for improvement. But this team is bad, bad.

[ShockerFever]

Embarrassing to see this thread name on the front page. Embarrassing look for us. Smh

Some of these fans thinks this a video game or something. They have no concept for reality or rationale and expect to be fed like they were in the 2010s.

[ShockerFever]

As has been stated in this thread, nobody is advocating that Mills goes now. But this topic is about taking the rose colored glasses off and having a real discussion about how this team is not even meeting the minimal expectations we had for this season. We are all hoping for improvement. But this team is bad, bad.

There was a poster in this thread that suggested Mills should be fired in the game thread.

Using the term “hot seat” has really only one meaning.

[rjl]

There was a poster in this thread that suggested Mills should be fired in the game thread.

Really? We're talking about this thread.

Using the term “hot seat” has really only one meaning.

So the thread title says what the threads about and the words actually posted within that thread don't? Does that mean by you posting in this thread you're saying Mills is on the hot seat?