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  • Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post

    So true. Good teams underperform to their expectations of a bad team in the first half. Their coach belittles them for allowing a bad team to outdo them. So they come out fired up and play their normal game in the second half. Which blows the bad team out. Happens all the time when good teams meet bad teams.

    This team is just plain bad. No highly skilled players in this team. I doubt there is a coach out there that could win much with these players.
    They could win a few more games though with some MTXE - problem is that gets tougher every season as players just get more selfish and softer

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    • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post

      What's that got to do with today's NIL era and trying to get quality recruits in our program? None of us may like it but either adapt or die.
      You and I may not disagree on this. It just rubbed me wrong when athletes complained because they couldn't go out to eat when they wanted to.

      I've paid money to SASO for scholarships, and I don't see anything wrong with a minimal monthly amount of money to go to most or all athletes for minimal expenses. I think all Div. 1 athletes should (at the very least) have a meal plan, room and board, and tuition totally paid (maybe a small stipend of discretionary spending money too).

      However, when we begin contributing with our donations to college students becoming millionaires, I won't give another cent, and that's what we will have to do to keep up with other schools. If we have some big money donors who want to see WSU keep up with KU, etc., I see nothing wrong with them or others donating money to our athletes. I don't fault anyone for doing this if they want to, but not me.

      I have other financial priorities. Those millionaire athletes, imo, need to go pro (NBA, NFL, G League, Overseas professional leagues, etc.).

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      • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

        Since you brought up my kids, they paid almost all of their own way through college too, with little help from me, and no hand outs. They’ve never needed to live off of me or live in my basement. if they would have needed my help, I would have offered, but they made a clean break after college, and didn’t need me. Now they do better than me. Good for them. It makes me proud of them.
        Nobody brought up your kids, viejo. But, congratulations on their successes in life. Any chance they are top 100 level basketball players and will play at WSU for no NIL money and live in their bootstraps?
        Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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        • Originally posted by BOBB View Post
          You kids get off my lawn.










          In a KU-Bill Self like manner, I will now self impose a ban on posting unrelated gifs for a period not to exceed four games.


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          • Originally posted by JVShocker View Post











            In a KU-Bill Self like manner, I will now self impose a ban on posting unrelated gifs for a period not to exceed four games.

            You had 4 violations so you only need to sit 3 games.
            Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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            • Wait why are we banning unrelated gifs? That's the only thing to keep us sane through these trying times.

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              • Originally posted by BOBB View Post
                Nobody brought up your kids, viejo. But, congratulations on their successes in life. Any chance they are top 100 level basketball players and will play at WSU for no NIL money and live in their bootstraps?
                Their eligibility is over, but they're great kids and even greater parents. Better parents than me too. Grandkids are some of the best behaved kids too, but not Div. 1, or even Div. 2 athletes. Thanks for asking though.

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                • This program is in shambles. What a farce!

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                  • I posted this in the post-game thread from the Memphis game in Wichita, and thought it needed to be in this thread.

                    Originally posted by rjl View Post

                    The $48,000 bi-weekly payments to Gregg Marshall end on November 27, 2026.

                    The $108,000 monthly payments to Isaac Brown end in April 2026.

                    Mills' contract ends on June 30, 2028. If the contract is terminated before the end of year 3 (March 2026), he's owed the full amount of his contract. If after year 3, he's owed 75% of the remainder.

                    This is all to say there's probably nothing that will be done even if we still suck next season, unless someone drops a pretty serious bag off at the WSU athletic department.

                    After year 3, Brown's payments are nearing completion, and we'll only have about 7 months left on Marshall's.
                    The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                    • THE TEAM IS FINALLY IMPROVING BUT MILLS IS THE DEVIL! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!
                      People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov

                      Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
                      Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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                      • The Scott Drew-Baylor system really works when you have the dudes.

                        Sincerely, K State

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                        • Originally posted by shock View Post
                          THE TEAM IS FINALLY IMPROVING BUT MILLS IS THE DEVIL! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!
                          Neat. So now our AAC record is 1-8 and 1 moral victory. Money well spent.
                          The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                          • Originally posted by rjl View Post

                            Neat. So now our AAC record is 1-8 and 1 moral victory. Money well spent.
                            I see what you’re saying, but I challenge you to give me a coach who can make something much better out of our **** players. I don’t think even Marshall could’ve done much with them.

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                            • Gonna be lots of criticism here but I don’t think this loss is on Mills. We missed open layups, free throws, etc. The game plan and x & os was good but we just don’t have competent players beyond Ballard and Rogers (except rogers defense needs to improve).

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                              • Originally posted by ShockHat View Post
                                Gonna be lots of criticism here but I don’t think this loss is on Mills. We missed open layups, free throws, etc. The game plan and x & os was good but we just don’t have competent players beyond Ballard and Rogers (except rogers defense needs to improve).
                                So, the only competent players are not his recruits and Mills only plays Ballard 6th in MPG.

                                Also, all of his recruits that he plays must, too, be incompetent, 2 others of his recruits he seldom plays because they're not as good as the others and another is a redshirt.

                                Makes total sense that the loss (or losses) are not on him.

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