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  • 2023-2024 Conference NET Rankings

    I tried to update this last year on a weekly basis and will again if there are no objections.

    12.04.23

    11 FAU
    66 Tulane
    69 Memphis
    84 SMU
    87 Wichita
    104 North Texas
    112 Charlotte
    170 Temple
    178 Tulsa
    237 UAB
    264 ECU
    272 USF
    273 Rice
    302 UTSA


    I'm surprised by our ranking a bit.
    Really disappointed in UAB. I'm not sure what's happened to them but I expected much more out of them this year.
    Tulsa is higher than I would have expected to start the season.
    ECU is lower
    Charlotte is in better shape than I thought they might be with what the lost in the portal.
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  • #2
    MVC comparison:

    22 - Indiana State
    52 - UIC
    57 - Drake
    80 - SIU
    90 - Evansville
    91 - Bradley
    97 - Missouri St.
    154 - Belmont
    160 - Illinois State
    213 - UNI
    215 - Murray St.
    291 - Valpo

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    • #3
      Surprised by SMU, also thought ECU was supposed to be good this year

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      • #4
        Its a rough start with the AAC being the 11th best conference as of right, behind both the Ivy and the MVC.

        Granted this is still based on extremely wonky data. In no world is Indiana State the 22nd best team in the country.

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        • #5
          It is interesting to look at the full line that includes W-L by quads:

          Through Games Dec. 04 2023

          RankPrevSchool Conf WL Rd Neu Hm Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
          11 11 Fla. Atlantic AAC 7-1 0-0 4-0 3-1 2-0 2-0 2-1 1-0
          66 66 Tulane AAC 6-1 1-0 1-1 4-0 0-0 0-1 2-0 4-0
          69 71 Memphis AAC 5-2 1-1 2-1 2-0 0-1 2-1 1-0 2-0
          84 84 SMU AAC 5-3 0-0 1-1 4-2 0-2 0-1 0-0 5-0
          87 88 Wichita St. AAC 6-2 1-1 1-1 4-0 0-1 0-1 2-0 4-0
          104 104 North Texas AAC 4-2 0-0 1-2 3-0 0-0 0-1 0-1 4-0
          112 110 Charlotte AAC 4-3 0-0 1-2 3-1 0-1 1-0 1-2 2-0
          170 171 Temple AAC 4-3 2-0 0-1 2-2 0-0 1-1 0-2 3-0
          178 178 Tulsa AAC 4-2 0-2 0-0 4-0 0-0 0-0 0-2 4-0
          237 235 UAB AAC 4-4 1-0 1-1 2-3 0-2 0-0 0-1 4-1
          264 264 East Carolina AAC 5-3 0-1 0-0 5-2 0-1 0-0 1-0 4-2
          272 273 South Fla. AAC 2-4 0-2 0-0 2-2 0-1 0-1 0-0 2-2
          273 274 Rice AAC 2-5 0-1 0-3 2-1 0-3 0-1 0-1 2-0
          302 303 UTSA AAC 4-4 1-3 0-0 3-1 0-0 0-0 0-2 4-2

          22 22 Indiana St. MVC 6-1 1-1 3-0 2-0 0-1 1-0 2-0 3-0
          52 52 UIC MVC 4-3 1-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 2-1 0-1 2-0
          57 56 Drake MVC 6-1 1-0 2-1 3-0 0-0 0-0 4-1 2-0
          80 80 Southern Ill. MVC 4-2 0-1 1-1 3-0 0-2 0-0 0-0 4-0
          90 92 Evansville MVC 6-1 2-1 1-0 3-0 0-0 0-1 1-0 5-0
          91 90 Bradley MVC 6-2 1-1 2-0 3-1 0-1 2-0 3-1 1-0
          97 97 Missouri St. MVC 6-2 0-2 3-0 3-0 0-1 0-0 3-1 3-0
          154 151 Belmont MVC 5-3 2-2 1-1 2-0 0-1 0-0 3-2 2-0
          160 161 Illinois St. MVC 4-3 1-1 1-2 2-0 1-0 0-0 1-2 2-1
          213 212 UNI MVC 1-6 0-3 1-2 0-1 0-1 0-3 0-1 1-1
          215 215 Murray St. MVC 2-4 0-1 0-2 2-1 0-1 0-0 1-2 1-1
          291 291 Valparaiso MVC 3-4 0-2 0-0 3-2 0-1 0-1 0-1 3-1
          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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          • #6
            The AAC needs to VCU as soon as possible. Waiting on schools like ECU and USF to contribute in basketball is a fool's errand.

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            • #7
              VCU currently 139.
              Dayton currently 42.
              SLU currently 259.

              Those are always the three I find the most likely option out of the A10 for a non-football addition.
              Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
              RIP Guy Always A Shocker
              Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
              ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
              Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
              Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ShockBand View Post
                It is interesting to look at the full line that includes W-L by quads:

                Through Games Dec. 04 2023

                RankPrevSchool Conf WL Rd Neu Hm Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
                11 11 Fla. Atlantic AAC 7-1 0-0 4-0 3-1 2-0 2-0 2-1 1-0
                66 66 Tulane AAC 6-1 1-0 1-1 4-0 0-0 0-1 2-0 4-0
                69 71 Memphis AAC 5-2 1-1 2-1 2-0 0-1 2-1 1-0 2-0
                84 84 SMU AAC 5-3 0-0 1-1 4-2 0-2 0-1 0-0 5-0
                87 88 Wichita St. AAC 6-2 1-1 1-1 4-0 0-1 0-1 2-0 4-0
                104 104 North Texas AAC 4-2 0-0 1-2 3-0 0-0 0-1 0-1 4-0
                112 110 Charlotte AAC 4-3 0-0 1-2 3-1 0-1 1-0 1-2 2-0
                170 171 Temple AAC 4-3 2-0 0-1 2-2 0-0 1-1 0-2 3-0
                178 178 Tulsa AAC 4-2 0-2 0-0 4-0 0-0 0-0 0-2 4-0
                237 235 UAB AAC 4-4 1-0 1-1 2-3 0-2 0-0 0-1 4-1
                264 264 East Carolina AAC 5-3 0-1 0-0 5-2 0-1 0-0 1-0 4-2
                272 273 South Fla. AAC 2-4 0-2 0-0 2-2 0-1 0-1 0-0 2-2
                273 274 Rice AAC 2-5 0-1 0-3 2-1 0-3 0-1 0-1 2-0
                302 303 UTSA AAC 4-4 1-3 0-0 3-1 0-0 0-0 0-2 4-2

                22 22 Indiana St. MVC 6-1 1-1 3-0 2-0 0-1 1-0 2-0 3-0
                52 52 UIC MVC 4-3 1-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 2-1 0-1 2-0
                57 56 Drake MVC 6-1 1-0 2-1 3-0 0-0 0-0 4-1 2-0
                80 80 Southern Ill. MVC 4-2 0-1 1-1 3-0 0-2 0-0 0-0 4-0
                90 92 Evansville MVC 6-1 2-1 1-0 3-0 0-0 0-1 1-0 5-0
                91 90 Bradley MVC 6-2 1-1 2-0 3-1 0-1 2-0 3-1 1-0
                97 97 Missouri St. MVC 6-2 0-2 3-0 3-0 0-1 0-0 3-1 3-0
                154 151 Belmont MVC 5-3 2-2 1-1 2-0 0-1 0-0 3-2 2-0
                160 161 Illinois St. MVC 4-3 1-1 1-2 2-0 1-0 0-0 1-2 2-1
                213 212 UNI MVC 1-6 0-3 1-2 0-1 0-1 0-3 0-1 1-1
                215 215 Murray St. MVC 2-4 0-1 0-2 2-1 0-1 0-0 1-2 1-1
                291 291 Valparaiso MVC 3-4 0-2 0-0 3-2 0-1 0-1 0-1 3-1
                Quads are also affected by the wonky data. Indiana State and UIC will be no where near a Q1 win at the end of the year like they are today.

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                • #9
                  Pretty sure NET won't mean much until January rolls around. But it will be fun to watch the movement.

                  I could add in some potential non-football adds as the AAC will be open to one, though not in a rush. Are there any outside of the three A10 schools we would want to follow for curiosities sake?
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                  ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
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                  • #10
                    12.04.23 NET rankings with SOS rankings per warrennolan.com added for additional color FWIW:

                    11 FAU (5)
                    66 Tulane (259)
                    69 Memphis (18)
                    84 SMU (126)
                    87 Wichita (76)
                    104 North Texas (324)
                    112 Charlotte (23)
                    170 Temple (60)
                    178 Tulsa (361)
                    237 UAB (169)
                    264 ECU (285)
                    272 USF (311)
                    273 Rice (73)
                    302 UTSA (354)

                    AAC Average NET= 159.2
                    AAC Average SOS = 174.6

                    MVC comparison:

                    22 - Indiana State (84)
                    52 - UIC (4)
                    57 - Drake (101)
                    80 - SIU (94)
                    90 - Evansville (223)
                    91 - Bradley (7)
                    97 - Missouri St.(186)
                    154 - Belmont (258)
                    160 - Illinois State (240)
                    213 - UNI (87)
                    215 - Murray St. (111)
                    291 - Valpo (239)

                    MVC Average NET = 126.8
                    MVC Average SOS = 136.2

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                    • #11
                      It's still early enough that one or two games can have a dramatic effect on, especially, strength of schedule. Looking at UIC, they are bolstered by games at Cinci (13), and neutral against GW (86) and UNCG (73). None of those teams will be anywhere near their current NET rankings by the time conference season starts.

                      Cinci actually has a pretty crappy non-conf schedule, other than Xavier (4-4 with a loss to Oakland) and Dayton (6-2). They'll get help by a B12 schedule, but I don't see them staying in the top 30 after playing Bryant, Merrimaack, Stetson and Evanville (who won't stay anywhere near their current 90).

                      As SubGod22 said, it will be fun to watch the movement.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                        I tried to update this last year on a weekly basis and will again if there are no objections.

                        12.04.23

                        11 FAU
                        66 Tulane
                        69 Memphis
                        84 SMU
                        87 Wichita

                        104 North Texas
                        112 Charlotte

                        170 Temple
                        178 Tulsa

                        237 UAB
                        264 ECU
                        272 USF
                        273 Rice

                        302 UTSA


                        I'm surprised by our ranking a bit.
                        Really disappointed in UAB. I'm not sure what's happened to them but I expected much more out of them this year.
                        Tulsa is higher than I would have expected to start the season.
                        ECU is lower
                        Charlotte is in better shape than I thought they might be with what the lost in the portal.
                        12.10.23

                        17 FAU
                        40 Memphis

                        79 SMU
                        97 Wichita

                        101 Charlotte
                        110 Tulane
                        121 North Texas
                        149 Temple

                        188 Tulsa
                        201 USF
                        254 UAB
                        266 ECU
                        268 Rice
                        299 UTSA


                        Non-Con

                        141 Lipscomb
                        169 Western Kentucky
                        341 Coastal Carolina
                        57 Liberty
                        220 Saint Louis
                        168 Norfolk State
                        102 Richmond
                        91 Missouri
                        145 South Dakota State
                        73 SIU
                        80 K-State

                        14 Kansas

                        Non-football eye candy

                        44 Dayton
                        114 VCU
                        Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                        RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                        Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                        ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                        Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                        Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

                          12.10.23

                          17 FAU
                          40 Memphis

                          79 SMU
                          97 Wichita

                          101 Charlotte
                          110 Tulane
                          121 North Texas
                          149 Temple

                          188 Tulsa
                          201 USF
                          254 UAB
                          266 ECU
                          268 Rice
                          299 UTSA


                          Non-Con

                          141 Lipscomb
                          169 Western Kentucky
                          341 Coastal Carolina
                          57 Liberty
                          220 Saint Louis
                          168 Norfolk State
                          102 Richmond
                          91 Missouri
                          145 South Dakota State
                          73 SIU
                          80 K-State

                          14 Kansas

                          Non-football eye candy

                          44 Dayton
                          114 VCU
                          What are the colors for? Did you just finish eating a bag of skittles?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JVShocker View Post

                            What are the colors for? Did you just finish eating a bag of skittles?
                            Quick visuals to group everything together. 1-50, 51-100, 101-150, 151-200, 201-299, 300+
                            Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                            RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                            Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                            ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                            Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                            Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TrackSuitAndTie View Post
                              The AAC needs to VCU as soon as possible. Waiting on schools like ECU, WSU and USF to contribute in basketball is a fool's errand.
                              fixed it.

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