Offensiveness of WSU offense

[Shockm]

The too much dribbling trying to create whatever is nothing but selfish. This isn't street ball. And going like 2-17 isn't selfish? That is nothing but trying to get your numbers.

NO, it's what the coach calls for evidently.

[shocker43]

Yes .. he was in a huge amount of pain on the play he got a flagrant for grabbing the players leg. Porter might be out a bit.

That made the last bit of the game really hard as the only option to pull anyone at guard was Jenkins .. who hasn't played much all year, so that wouldn't have been a good spot to shove him into.

There is a picture on Instagram of Porter being helped off the floor by DD and MU after the game. Couldn't put weight on his leg. Not looking great.

[rrshock]

NO, it's what the coach calls for evidently.

Well if that is the case, then there are even bigger problems.

[Ashockalypse]

We have watched the dribble and Jack offense for eight games this year already with no improvement. Why hasn’t something developed in practice. The AAU perimeter rotation would open up more than the one on one take turns juking that we have employed. Do something now!

[OregonShocker]

Roll the ball out there and just let them go?

Sometimes the coach that is a "player's coach" has the approach of just letting them play. That CAN work if everybody stays focused on the best shot available and NOT succumb to the death knoll of shooting their way out of a slump. If someone's hot, you feed them the ball. If someone isn't, THEY have to recognize that they aren't the ones to be shooting. I couldn't watch but listened to the game, and I came away thinking, "why are they jacking up threes when they aren't going in?" Go back to the Hoosiers philosophy of 5 passes before a shot goes up; you should always be looking for the highest percentage/best shot. If you're red hot, the 3 may be that shot. But that wasn't us last game.

[ShockTalk]

Go back to the Hoosiers philosophy of 5 passes before a shot goes up; you should always be looking for the highest percentage/best shot.

Nice touch.

[1972Shocker]

Go back to the Hoosiers philosophy of 5 passes before a shot goes up; you should always be looking for the highest percentage/best shot. If you're red hot, the 3 may be that shot. But that wasn't us last game.

I got a little chuckle from this comment. After the KSU game on Sunday I didn't feel like watching the Sunday night NFL game so after just a little bit of channel surfing lo and behold Hoosiers was on the tube after the Shocker game. Had to watch again even though I have seen it a 100 times.

[jdmee]

As bad as the announcers were, they did highlight exactly what was wrong with this team offensively.

1. To much dribbling East/west
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This is one thing I notice. We catch a pass and immediately start to dribble letting the defense reset. We make fun of the Bluejays suburban horse, but they move the ball and get the defense out of position.

[SubGod22]

I'm pretty sure there was a possession at one point that ended with Grant taking a bad, contested shot towards the end of the shot clock and he was the only one that touched the ball during the entire possession.

I've also seen Ty do nearly the same thing. But he'll often pass it to someone and then immediately move towards them wanting the ball back and he normally gets it. Then he has repeated the same failed attempt that led to the first and only pass.

I'm not saying there always has to be a bunch of passes, but if the shot clock is depleted, there sure as hell should have been more than a few or it was a really bad possession.

[WuShock Reaper]

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

“Sometimes it takes losing a game in order to get better, so hopefully this will help us down the line.”

I have an issue with this quote from IB. It shouldn't have taken the loss to see how anemic the offense was and adjust. It's literally been going on all season.

[Shockm]

It shouldn't have taken the loss to see how anemic the offense was and adjust. It's literally been going on all season.

This statement is definitely correct. However, as speculation, IB might have been saying, that it takes losing a game for players to listen to him, and coaches.

But to play devil's advocate, there are possibly other ways to get the message across to players who don't listen, but that would require "Commando Coaching", and would require for him to possibly lose relationships with players who aren't willing to go with him. Maybe he's already doing "Commando Coaching" during practice, which means he becomes a "drill Sargant" as much as a coach. And if that doesn't work, I would think that Commando Coaching" would then move into games where he replaces (ALL) players from the game if they aren't doing what he demands.

Any way to get the message across.

One loss isn't going to ruin a season, and team rebounding has shown improvement this year, but the offense does needs to start showing improvement on the fast break (which a smaller team needs to execute), and discipline on the half court.

[WuTheOne]

When you look at Eldridge's breakdown of the screening offense, it's never going to be effective with 5 guys defending two because NOBODY is guarding the 3 perimeter guys waiting for kick out passes.

[WuDrWu]

I have an issue with this quote from IB. It shouldn't have taken the loss to see how anemic the offense was and adjust. It's literally been going on all season.

Well, this is a (A difference not THE difference) difference between a "player's coach" and FHCGM. Like it or not. Gregg would mf the eff out of these guys for the crappy way they were executing during wins. Player's coaches don't generally pick on winning teams and players.

I realize I'm making a general comment on specific incidents. Clearly it's much more difficult to manage. My point is (kind of) that HCIB is learning on the job, figuring out what buttons to push and what's going to work when and what doesn't work when. He doesn't have the luxury of 20 years of making these calls/decisions. He's learning and he'll continue to learn. But he's being forced to learn on the go, in an environment where, for us, winning matters. A lot. We need to win (not just want to win).

He's said all the right things, and knows what needs to happen. The question becomes now, can they make those things happen. Time will tell. He did a good job adjusting last season, save for the last 2 games.

One thing I take away from Taylor's OUTSTANDING breakdown (seriously, that's top shelf stuff) is how literally awful we are at so many things, yet overall relatively successful. Like, just be top 150 in transition baskets. Turnover the ball only 10% (still way too high on odd number breaks) and see how much better the overall gets. Instead of next to last, be #200. Marginal improvement shouldn't be terribly difficult, but the results of those marginal improvements will be pronounced, imho.

[BOBB]

Seeing Taylor's article this morning with video of our players misusing screens makes me want to puke. You need next to zero talent to come tight off your screens.