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    Offensive Rating for WSU [2020-21 numbers in "( )" ]

    1. Jackson 121.2
    2. Pohto 104.1


    <---------Erik Stevenson Line 100.1 [2019-20] --------> The Line of Shame

    3. Council 97.6
    4. Udeze 92.0
    5. Dennis 92.0
    6. Pleasant 90.8
    7. Tyson 90.8
    8. Grant 82.8
    9. Porter 81.0

    Source: KenPom
    Last edited by SB Shock; December 6, 2021, 07:59 AM.

  • #2
    Where is Jackson?

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    • #3
      Too much selfishness. Especially from Tyson.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by N Crestway View Post
        Where is Jackson?
        I mislabeled him as Jenkins. I fixed it: Jenkins is at 150 but I did not put him on the list because his numbers are inflated because of him hardly playing,

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rrshock View Post
          Too much selfishness. Especially from Tyson.
          As bad as the announcers were, they did highlight exactly what was wrong with this team offensively.

          1. To much dribbling East/west
          2. Taking to many bad 3pt shots
          3. Tyson one-dimension, not doing other things to help his team like screening,
          4. Udeze trying to do to much and getting sped up
          5. Team not trusting Udeze (of course based on past performance that is somewhat warranted), but when he is having the game he was having, ride him until he fails u.
          6. Selfishness

          Hopefully Kennedy will ask HCIB what is their offense they are running. It looks like something you would find on the playground.

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          • #6
            I made this assessment re TE before the season even started that was if they
            focused on HIM in an effort to advance his chances to make him an NBA PG it
            would be a detriment to the TEAM and I am more convinced of that today. He is
            a one dimensional player, a spot up catch and shoot SG, who won't play in the
            NBA at that position either. The more IB allows him to RUN the team on
            offense the longer the team will struggle offensively.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
              I made this assessment re TE before the season even started that was if they
              focused on HIM in an effort to advance his chances to make him an NBA PG it
              would be a detriment to the TEAM and I am more convinced of that today. He is
              a one dimensional player, a spot up catch and shoot SG, who won't play in the
              NBA at that position either. The more IB allows him to RUN the team on
              offense the longer the team will struggle offensively
              .
              You were correct - IMO the Tarleton State game offers support for your conclusion. Better team play without TE on the court.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rrshock View Post
                Too much selfishness. Especially from Tyson.
                This goes too far imo. Tyson took some bad shots, but the OFFENSE is a 5 man team on the court, and Tyson's shots were often toward the end of the clock. I couldn't tell how many times IB called a play for Tyson to take a shot. Therefore selfishness isn't fair.

                The TEAM showed NO offense. There was too much dribbling. There was no ball movement, or movement without the ball. There was no cohesion by any of the players. Most of it was geared towards Mo inside, or isolation of a player outside.

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                • #9
                  We have only had one good game from an assist standpoint and that was the
                  game TE did not play. You all may think I am nuts ( probably true ) but I'd
                  much rather see Jenkins starting for TE. Can't be any worse on offense and
                  a much better defender / rebounder. If you want to make the argument he doesn't
                  know the offense well enough I'd argue who does right now??

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                  • #10
                    What offense is there to know?
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                    • #11
                      TE is not a point guard. It takes a big man to admit that he was wrong and made a mistake. Will Coach Brown admit that it was a mistake to try grooming TE as a pg for the NBA? The longer this experiment continues, the longer we will not have a real offense.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                        As bad as the announcers were, they did highlight exactly what was wrong with this team offensively.

                        1. To much dribbling East/west
                        2. Taking to many bad 3pt shots
                        3. Tyson one-dimension, not doing other things to help his team like screening,
                        4. Udeze trying to do to much and getting sped up
                        5. Team not trusting Udeze (of course based on past performance that is somewhat warranted), but when he is having the game he was having, ride him until he fails u.
                        6. Selfishness

                        Hopefully Kennedy will ask HCIB what is their offense they are running. It looks like something you would find on the playground.
                        When was the last time MK ask a cutting question? He's king of softballs.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TheShocktocles View Post
                          TE is not a point guard. It takes a big man to admit that he was wrong and made a mistake. Will Coach Brown admit that it was a mistake to try grooming TE as a pg for the NBA? The longer this experiment continues, the longer we will not have a real offense.
                          What are you talking about? His A/TO is................................................ ........................less than zero. He is under par right? That's good right? Come on coach knows what he is doing right?

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                          • #14
                            One dimensional is right. I couldn't tell you anything he's done of note on the defensive side. IB always says defense gets you court time, that's why Dexter is still starting. Well, what the hell is Tyson doing on defense to deserve this much court time? I'll hang up and listen.

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                            • #15
                              IB has to begin earning his salary. He's said that this team is built on defense, and now he better start paying attention to the offense and get it to working.

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