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So why is the men's basketball roster on goshockers only showing 7 players for 2020-21 who also all happen to be current players this year? I first saw this kind of thing happening in the women's volleyball roster. Is WSU now acting like if a player does not stay with us, we go back and take them off last year's roster? They are in the stats, so show their d*mn picture and info on the roster.
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Is it an NIL thing?Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
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The one's that all left the year before (2019-20) and still playing this year coming year are still shown on that roster.Originally posted by shoxlax View PostComment
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You got me….Comment
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WBB doesn't do this. Last years roster is complete including 3 players who have left the program with eligibility remaining. They have put up a 2021-22 roster that inlcudes all the returning players plus the incoming recruits. However, at this point there are no photos of the incoming recruits but they do have brief bios.
Probably need to communicate with a programs DOBO for reasons why some do it like MBB and Volleyball vs the way WBB does it, which I think we all agree is preferable.Last edited by 1972Shocker; July 31, 2021, 10:03 PM.Comment
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Almost certainly a website thing. They don't have pages for the new players yet. Pages automatically populate the rosters. Probably putting the content together. The same team would be doing the WBB site. Can't work on them all at the same time.Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post“The rebellion on the populist right against the results of the 2020 election was partly a cynical, knowing effort by political operators and their hype men in the media to steal an election or at least get rich trying. But it was also the tragic consequence of the informational malnourishment so badly afflicting the nation. ... Americans gorge themselves daily on empty informational calories, indulging their sugar fixes of self-affirming half-truths and even outright lies.'”
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How does that explain the dropping of players from the previous season rosters?Originally posted by Wuzee View Post
Volleyball has its 21-22 year roster up now with new players without photos, same as WBB. But they removed all the players who left the program at the end of the last spring with eligibility remaining from the 20-21 roster. They did keep the graduating players on that roster. The dropping of contributing players from the previous year is what most are not happy about. There may be a valid reason for that but it comes across as a somewhat petty.Last edited by 1972Shocker; July 31, 2021, 10:14 PM.Comment
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BFDComment
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Somebody probably screwed up and deleted some players who have left the program, and those deletions fed into the 2020-2021 roster. Probably tried to delete them from the 2021-22 roster and did it wrong.Comment
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There are a ton of valid reasons why this could have happened... Almost none of those are petty. A lot depends on how the website data is structured. Most likely scenarios involve user error or technical glitch. Most unlikely is someone erasing our historical data out of spite.Originally posted by 1972Shocker View PostComment
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I don't disagree with that. I'm sure you are right. I did not say it was done out of spite. I said it gives that appearance. Especially when handling that issue differently from among different sports. It is apparently no problem to avoid appearing petty if you want to as evidenced by WBB. Perhaps it is simply a lack of adequate training and oversight.Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
Is it a big deal? Probably not. Could it easily be avoided. Apparently yes.
Does it cause any unnecessary ill will with departing players and, if so, does that generate more negativity from these former players than otherwise might be the case? I don't know. And if it does is that important at all?
Last edited by 1972Shocker; August 1, 2021, 07:51 AM.Comment
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It happened last year too. Lasted less than a week. We will see if it’s the same this year. My guess was that they were doing some level of copy paste with the master data.Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
Livin the dreamComment
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No doubt. Instead of A B C D they probably went D A C B. And probably the same person that did it last year D A C B.Originally posted by wufan View Post
And pictures for new players rarely if ever go up until picture day when players officially report for school. Every team should charge admission for fans to watch this, it's generally a lot of fun to see the kids hamming it up for the cameras. Volleyball could charge triple. Just sayin'.Comment
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Your guess is as good as any and better than most. However, the Volleyball players who played the full season last year before departing the program were deleted no later than April 6th when ShockTalk brought it up on the Volleyball channel. As of this posting that remains to be the case so that is going on 4 months.Originally posted by wufan View Post
The 2021 volleyball roster is up and complete except for the photos of the newcomers which as Doc points out is never done before picture day. But I think that has only been done recently. So will see if perhaps those 2020 roster deletions get restored in the next week or so.
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Is the schedule finalized? If so, the roster should be also as it stands todayComment
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