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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ixiah View Post
    I never liked the idea of singling out a player to yell at when the entire team is playing poorly. There is no "I" in "team"; but there is no "you" as well.
    Very well stated.
    “Losers Average Losers.” ― Paul Tudor Jones

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Rixtoy1 View Post
      Wow - I am actually more disturbed by the resemblence of shockband's caricature to Echinique - interesting . . .

      Rats! My secret identity has been discovered! :highly_amused:
      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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      • #33
        Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post
        No biggie, guys. McDermott (Elder) said after the game Doug could handle it, and there's no reason to doubt him. I'd be very surprised if either one cares in any lasting way about the photo or the exchange, or if this is even the first time (probably just the first one on video). Family stuff happens, and it would actually be a bigger deal if it wasn't father-son.
        A potential cover for SI?
        "I not sure that I've ever been around a more competitive player or young man than Fred VanVleet. I like to win more than 99.9% of the people in this world, but he may top me." -- Gregg Marshall 12/23/13 :peaceful:
        ---------------------------------------
        Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
        "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it".

        A physician called into a radio show and said:
        "That's the definition of a stool sample."

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        • #34
          Myself, I don't blame the coach for going ballistic. This is probably their biggest game of the season, his players are flat, he can't get through to them.

          He needed to get through to his players. I'm not saying he did it in the best way, but Bobby Knight probably would have been throwing chairs, Bill Self would have been trying to get T'ed up, maybe another coach would be trying to get thrown out of the game (like Dean Smith did when Carolina was blown out by Kansas a number of years ago in the NCAA).

          His team did not look prepared. I would also say that given the competition and the venue, I have not seen the Shocks play like that in at least 30 years......let's hope they take some of this with them into the NCAA, it would be nice to see a long run and I know these guys can do it.....

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          • #35
            Originally posted by shocka khan View Post
            I would also say that given the competition and the venue, I have not seen the Shocks play like that in at least 30 years......
            You must not have seen what we did to Syracuse @ Syracuse for 30 mins in '06. Records were broken that night in the Carrier Dome with regards to how we dominated them.


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            ...:cool:

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            • #36
              Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded View Post
              You must not have seen what we did to Syracuse @ Syracuse for 30 mins in '06. Records were broken that night in the Carrier Dome with regards to how we dominated them.


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              ...:cool:
              For 30 minutes? I don't believe that we dominated Syracuse for 30 minutes.

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              • #37


                A little uncomfortable - I'm sure. Looked like Little Mac wanted to just get out of there as quickly as possible.

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                • #38
                  I don't remember the score, but I do remember the Shox leading at Cuse by double figures at the half. My recollection is the Orange made a nice run in the second half as we won by 2 or 4...something like that.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
                    I don't remember the score, but I do remember the Shox leading at Cuse by double figures at the half. My recollection is the Orange made a nice run in the second half as we won by 2 or 4...something like that.
                    Think the Shox were up by 16 or 18 with like 6 minutes left when 'cuse made their run. Thought the game would never end in time.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post
                      Doug is really good, but he must work on 2 things if he's to improve. He has to stop bitching to the officials after EVERY non-call and he has to at least be able to play marginal defense.

                      He's a BAD defender. Not average, but BAD. And worse yet, he goal hangs more than Steve Zungul. The game's played at both ends young man.

                      He'll be POY in the Valley. But he's nowhere near an All American, 1st team or otherwise, and if you want to argue, tune into the UK vs Vandy game tonight. Think Dougie makes Kentucky's team? We were caps and sleeves at this level son, understood?
                      This thread goes into the hall for the MiSL reference. I think the god doc should make a habit of this.

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                      • #41
                        Think you are wrong @WuDrWu: on POY. It's Garrett.
                        In the fast lane

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                        • #42
                          Why is everyone upset that a coach yells at a player, that's just life in a competitive environment. I experienced that ever since grade school (yes grade schools competed back in the old days). We sure aren't responsible for making Dougie boy into a NBA player. If he can't handle a little confrontation, I doubt that he will make it very far in Basketball. Live and let live, and let the dice fall where they may!!!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by tropicalshox View Post
                            Think you are wrong @WuDrWu: on POY. It's Garrett.

                            Trop, you're right far more often than not, but even if the Shocks finish 2 clear of the Jays, I think Garrett and Toure' split the WSU vote, giving it to Doug. Rags may get some votes too.

                            At this pace, there is reason to think as many as 3 Shockers could be 1st team.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Veritas View Post
                              Think the Shox were up by 16 or 18 with like 6 minutes left when 'cuse made their run. Thought the game would never end in time.
                              They missed a lay up at the end.
                              “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
                              -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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                              • #45
                                I think a lot of the stunned looks on the faces of the Creighton players was because that kind of behavior (to my knowledge) is pretty out of the ordinary for Coach McDermott. A lot of frustration had no doubt wound Coach McDermott's spring pretty tight with the consecutive losses on the road to UNI and Evansville and then to have the Shocks come into their house in front of 18,700 fans and dominate his team the pressure became too much and the volcano erupted. The way Doug responded probably only exacerbated the eruption from Mt. McDermott.

                                The eruption certainly didn't help the Bluejays against the Shocks and may have even hurt them a little. Who knows for sure. However, I don't think it will prove to be an issue and may even yet yield some benefits. I think Crieghton will bounce back from this. What do they say about adversity. If it doesn't kill you it will make you better.

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