Shocker Coaches - Career Victories

[1972Shocker]

Congrats Coach Marshall. Hope you get about 500 more as Shocker head man.

BTW, wins 297, 298, 299 and 300 have to be some of the most satisfying of 3G's career.

[wusphlash]

We missed that So. Miss. was Gregg's 120th as a Shocker.

Coach	Wins	Seasons	Shocker Wins	Seasons	Avg Wins Per Season Career	Win % Career	Average Wins Per Year @ WSU	Win % @ WSU
Gregg Marshall	315	14.43	121	5.43	21.8	0.685	22.3	0.661
Mark Turgeon	278	14.39	128	7	19.3	0.614	18.3	0.587
Randy Smithson	55	4	55	4	13.8	0.470	13.8	0.470
Scott Thompson	150	13	40	4	11.5	0.418	10.0	0.364
Mike Cohen	32	3	32	3	10.7	0.364	10.7	0.364
Eddie Fogler	265	15	61	3	17.7	0.574	20.3	0.656
Gene Smithson	221	11	155	8	20.1	0.691	19.4	0.657
Harry Miller	233	17	97	7	13.7	0.500	13.9	0.519
Gary Thompson	93	7	93	7	13.3	0.497	13.3	0.497
Ralph Miller	657	38	220	13	17.3	0.632	16.9	0.623

[JaminShock]

Note the 'Winning % at WSU' column. Marshall's % is the highest, and I see it going up still from where it's at.

[wusphlash]

As of 4/6/2013

Coach	Wins	Seasons	Shocker Wins	Seasons	Avg Wins Per Season Career	Win % Career	Average Wins Per Year @ WSU	Win % @ WSU
Gregg Marshall	333	15	139	6	22.2	0.685	23.2	0.665
Mark Turgeon	292	15	128	7	19.5	0.610	18.3	0.587
Randy Smithson	55	4	55	4	13.8	0.470	13.8	0.470
Scott Thompson	150	13	40	4	11.5	0.418	10.0	0.364
Mike Cohen	32	3	32	3	10.7	0.364	10.7	0.364
Eddie Fogler	265	15	61	3	17.7	0.574	20.3	0.656
Gene Smithson	221	11	155	8	20.1	0.691	19.4	0.657
Harry Miller	233	17	97	7	13.7	0.500	13.9	0.519
Gary Thompson	93	7	93	7	13.3	0.497	13.3	0.497
Ralph Miller	657	38	220	13	17.3	0.632	16.9	0.623

[Kung Wu]

Greatest Shocka coach eva. And we ain't found the ceiling yet.

[MadaboutWu]

What's a ceiling?

[pogo]

CAVU to the moon. You pilots/meteorologists will know what this means.

[WuDrWu]

There's something wrong with my personal settings @_kai_: as I cannot see the column for Final Four appearances.

[1979Shocker]

There's something wrong with my personal settings @_kai_ as I cannot see the column for Final Four appearances.

Mine is missing, too.

[kcshocker11]

Wait till Danny Ainge gets his numbers up there

[Rlh04d]

Note the 'Winning % at WSU' column. Marshall's % is the highest, and I see it going up still from where it's at.

Let's be honest here, HCGM is no Head Coach Wilmer Elfrink, winning at an 88.9% clip while at WSU.

[WSUwatcher]

Let's be honest here, HCGM is no Head Coach Wilmer Elfrink, winning at an 88.9% clip while at WSU.

Well, maybe not -- but Elfrink was no Elfrink himself except that one time, a one-year wonder.

What impresses me about Marshall is that he's surpassed every Shocker coach since Gene Johnson, which means he has the best winning percentage in the last 80 (eighty!) years at WSU, and that's after an 11-20 start with the rubble of his predecessor's otherwise excellent program. The last four seasons, Marshall has been 111-33 (.771), which is better than Johnson (who from what I've read was a legitimately renowned coach in his time), and puts him right up with Leonard Umnus. Leonard Umnus -- now that's some fast company!

[wufan]

If I'm not mistaken, Gene Johnson invented the modern full court press concept.

[xazshox]

Gene Johnson

To clarify what you said about Gene Johnson inventing the press, the subject is covered very well in Ralph Miller's autobiography, "Spanning the Game", which I read recently. According to Miller, before Gene Johnson became the coach at WU, he took a traveling team to Mexico where he saw the opposing teams using what is now called the 2-2-1 zone press. His take on it was that they used it as an equalizer since most American teams had taller players than they did. After that, Gene Johnson brought the concept back to KS where it was adopted quite successfully by a number of high school coaches in the state over a period of 20 yrs. At some point, Ralph Miller learned about it & used it when he was the coach at East High for 3 yrs. After he became the coach at WU in 1951, he began to use it also.

I don't remember when Miller first used it at WU, but I suspect it was not until the early 60's, perhaps when Kelly Pete came to WU from East High. I graduated from WU in 1962, so I remember them being very good at the press then. At some point in the early 60's, WU played UCLA where John Wooden picked up the idea & later made if famous. But, it was not Wooden, but Ralph Miller that was the first college coach in the US to ever use it in a college game. I don't think Gene Johnson used it at WU in the mid-30's. One of the keys to it is that a team that uses it doesn't start to use it until after they make a free throw & the other team has to take the ball out of bounds. As I understand it, this allows the team putting on the 2-2-1 zone press to pick up their proper assignments in a timely manner. I'm also pretty sure that Gregg Marshall used it at the NCAA tournament this year & an analyst noticed it & commented on that exact point.

[ripemupshocks]

Also, for those who don't know, Unmus brought the Wheatshockers their first All American, and Johnson brought the Wheatshockers their first Olympians. A few lines from Hoopedia:

A place in Olympic history

The school's basketball history began in 1905-06. Consensus All-American Ross McBurney helped the 1927 team to a 19-2 record. The team made three straight appearances in the AAU national tournament in the late 1920s.

Coach Gene Johnson took over in 1928 and led the Shockers to five straight winning records and won 75.5 percent of his games. He helped coach the 1936 U.S. Olympic team to a gold medal in Berlin, a team that featured Shockers Francis Johnson (Gene's brother) and Jack Ragland.

There should be a banner for McBurney.