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    Valley still gets 3. Lunardi has Mo State winning in St. Louis.

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    hmmmmm Stanford......good team but defeatable.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by shocks02 View Post
      http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

      Valley still gets 3. Lunardi has Mo State winning in St. Louis.
      He also has UNI in his next 4 out. In other words, he has the Valley with 3 bids but close to getting 4 bids.

      In fact it appears that he had UNI IN until their loss Sunday night. He makes this comment on his blog discussing the weakness of the ACC:

      "In fact, it took a late Sunday loss by the Northern Iowa Panthers to lift a fourth ACC team (Virginia Tech) into today's bracket."
      Last edited by shox1989; January 3, 2012, 09:26 PM.

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      • #4
        Latest Bracketology projections. Creighton (6) and WSU (10) in, UNI one of the first four out.

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          The NCAA is releasing the information they use to select which teams go to the tournament.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by shocktheheart View Post
            Latest Bracketology projections. Creighton (6) and WSU (10) in, UNI one of the first four out.

            http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
            About the only thing about his bracket that upsets me is that he has the PAC 12 with 3 teams in.

            As bad as they played in the non-con and as bad as their rpis are, they do NOT deserve to have 3 teams in the dance. If they were not a BCS league they would definitely be a one bidder this year (at least where they stand today).

            Unfortunately I do have a feeling come selection Sunday no matter how bad the PAC 12 looks the committee will try to find some way to get them 3 bids.

            His multiple bid conferences (outside the BCS) are C-USA with 3 bids, the A-10 with 4 bids, MWC with 3 bids, the WCC with 3 bids and the VALLEY with 2 bids.

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            • #7
              It is interesting that he is projecting UNI out (in the first four out) with a current rpi of 22. It looks a lot like a repeat of SWOMO in 2007 when they were left out with an rpi of 21.

              In his rundown he basically states that what they are lacking is a big win or two.

              Maybe they can get one by winning at Creighton tomorrow night. It certainly wouldn't break my heart if they did that.

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              • #8
                UNI did recently loose 3 games in a row. That doesnt help the tournament resume

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                • #9
                  Pac 12 with three? Outrageous! They are a one bid league this year. If they get three the Valley should have five.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Capitol Shock II View Post
                    Pac 12 with three? Outrageous! They are a one bid league this year. If they get three the Valley should have five.
                    Absolutely right it's outrageous. Projected RPIs: Cal 32, Stanford 66, Colorado 98, and among the first 4 out, Arizona 76. If those RPIs hold up, there would be no way to justify any team other than Cal as an at-large.

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                    • #11
                      I'll add this. Info from rpiforecast.com: If Stanford, Arizona, and Colorado each win two more games than projected, their RPIs would be projected at 42, 51, and 64. Of course one would have to find the teams to lose those 6 games that would have been at least toss ups. If Cal lost 2 of those 6, their RPI would project around 47. A lot of stars are going to need to line up just right and 3 of these 4 will need to clearly separate themselves from everyone else.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
                        Absolutely right it's outrageous. Projected RPIs: Cal 32, Stanford 66, Colorado 98, and among the first 4 out, Arizona 76. If those RPIs hold up, there would be no way to justify any team other than Cal as an at-large.
                        You forgot to factor in the BCS factor:monkey:
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
                          Absolutely right it's outrageous. Projected RPIs: Cal 32, Stanford 66, Colorado 98, and among the first 4 out, Arizona 76. If those RPIs hold up, there would be no way to justify any team other than Cal as an at-large.
                          Cal's best win is over Denver. Six of their wins are over teams with an rpi of 218 or worse. Among their losses is a 92-53 loss to Missouri in Kansas City and a 17 point loss to UNLV (that game wasn't even that close, CAL made a run at the end, after the game was way out of reach).

                          But you are right, they are the only PAC 12 team that has a resume at all worthy of an at large discussion.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kcshocker11 View Post
                            You forgot to factor in the BS factor:monkey:
                            Corrected.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shox1989 View Post
                              It is interesting that he is projecting UNI out (in the first four out) with a current rpi of 22. It looks a lot like a repeat of SWOMO in 2007 when they were left out with an rpi of 21.

                              In his rundown he basically states that what they are lacking is a big win or two.

                              Maybe they can get one by winning at Creighton tomorrow night. It certainly wouldn't break my heart if they did that.
                              The SWOMO snub was actually in 2006, not 2007. And you're right. They're aligning perfectly for that scenario. You know why?

                              For starters, what is the quality win they have? Iowa State? Meh.

                              What do they have for bad losses? Well, they were blown out at St. Mary's. They were blown out at home to Ohio. They lost by double-digits on their home floor to Evansville. They lost at Illinois State. That resume does NOT scream NCAA at-large bid. Much like MSU in 2006, they beat the RPI system and have managed to avoid any 200+ RPI teams so far. That has inflated their numbers. Next time, instead of just looking at the RPI like you blame the committee for doing all of the time, look at the actual resume. They're weak and quite honestly, I'm surprised they were as close as the Last Four Out. I wouldn't even have put them that high up on the list.
                              Last edited by ShockerFever; January 10, 2012, 12:42 AM.
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