Newman Game Thread

[BOBB]

Why don't you volunteer your services for scheduling Snapshot, since you think it is so easy? The coaches have said time and time again that a school like WSU has challenges in getting games that the BCS conference schools and select programs (Gonzaga, Butler, Memphis) don't have. If we went the Gonzaga route we would have to give up a fair number of home non-con games, at least at first, to be an "anytime, anywhere" type of program. I think there would be a lot of howling if we only had 12 home games instead of the usual 16 or 17 we have now.

I know we all would like to think we're a bigger player in the grand scheme, but we aren't quite there yet. We have the potential, but we need to fulfill that potential on a much more regular basis. If we could become a nearly annual NCAA team, and get at least one or two wins in the NCAAs most years, maybe then we elevate our stature nationally.

Well said. I think we could get many of the season ticket holders to bite on 14-15 home games. I could be wrong. I also will pay a $20 spiff and a sixer of Schlitz talls to @Snapshot9: for any top 100 home games he schedules.

[ShockBand]

I'd be OK with with 14 if it meant a strength of schedule boost. 9 MVC games + 3 non-con at CKA + 1 non-con at IBA + 1 exhibition. We would have fewer games to attend in November and December, but I would like to think a greater opportunity to be playing well into March would be worth it.

[shocker3]

I'd be OK with with 14 if it meant a strength of schedule boost. 9 MVC games + 3 non-con at CKA + 1 non-con at IBA + 1 exhibition. We would have fewer games to attend in November and December, but I would like to think a greater opportunity to be playing well into March would be worth it.

Part of the problem with that is financial. Home basketball games is where we make our money. In fact home basketball games not only finance the basketball program they help finance all of the athletic programs at WSU (except baseball which is able to pretty much finance itself).

[Kung Wu]

Part of the problem with that is financial. Home basketball games is where we make our money. In fact home basketball games not only finance the basketball program they help finance all of the athletic programs at WSU (except baseball which is able to pretty much finance itself).

The Gonzaga "way" is you can trade in some of that easy payday income for large TV package deals if you are an annual deep NCAA-tourney threat, isn't it? I don't know squat about it, does that even make sense?

[shocker3]

The Gonzaga "way" is you can trade in some of that easy payday income for large TV package deals if you are an annual deep NCAA-tourney threat, isn't it? I don't know squat about it, does that even make sense?

Gonzaga's situation is definitely different. They are a small private school. Their arena only holds just under 6000 (before 2004 they played in an even smaller arena), so their home games do not produce the kind of revenue that WSU games do.

[Kung Wu]

Gonzaga's situation is definitely different. They are a small private school. Their arena only holds just under 6000 (before 2004 they played in an even smaller arena), so their home games do not produce the kind of revenue that WSU games do.

Ah that does make sense. They have less risk financially in grinding the road.

[SubGod22]

Didn't Syracuse cover our travel AND give us 100,000? All we'd really lose is concessions and advertising. Certainly the guarantee covers that and it does more for the program as a whole.

[The Mad Hatter]

Didn't Syracuse cover our travel AND give us 100,000? All we'd really lose is concessions and advertising. Certainly the guarantee covers that and it does more for the program as a whole.

Because Syracuse plays in the Carrier Dome that seats over 34,000 for basketball, they can afford to provide much bigger payouts than most schools, even elite ones. I'd like to see the numbers on average buyout rather than use that example.

[AndShock]

Charleston Southern -75k
Chicago State - 80k

Also, I believe the WSU-'Cuse game was on ESPNU, that might help a little bit with costs.

[shox1989]

Ah that does make sense. They have less risk financially in grinding the road.

Gonzaga was truly a rags to riches story. They played 37 years in division 1 before they finally made the ncaa tournament for the first time in 1995. They played in a gym that held like 3500 people. So taking a chance and playing on the road was probably actually a financial boost at the time.

They didn't get their first at-large ncaa bid until 2003. The size of the university has grown tremondously (now over 7000 students) since their big splash on the national scene in the 1999 ncaa tournament -the year they made it to the elite 8 in only their 2nd ncaa tournament appearance ever.