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  • Bubble Team Comparisons - 3/9

    Worked this up for my reference but I'll post it here. Data is as of the Morning of 3/9. Each line is a bubble team. Red means their resume is worse in the category mentioned, Green means it's better. No fill means it's a judgement call. So more red on this chart is better for WSU.

    On the quadrants - It's hard to compare, but if teams had a similar winning percentage, I gave the edge to the team with more wins. If it was within 1 win/loss of being equal, I left it as neutral.


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    Last edited by Stickboy46; March 9, 2020, 12:08 PM.

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    Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
    Worked this up for my reference but I'll post it here. Data is as of the Morning of 3/9. Each line is a bubble team. Red means their resume is worse in the category mentioned, Green means it's better. No fill means it's a judgement call. So more red on this chart is better for WSU.

    On the quadrants - It's hard to compare, but if teams had a similar winning percentage, I gave the edge to the team with more wins. If it was within 1 win/loss of being equal, I left it as neutral.


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    Thanks for putting that together. Ultimately, I feel like it comes down to If the committee values number of good wins or having no bad losses more. Hopefully it’s the latter.

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    • #3
      Thanks for doing this. This is an accurate depiction of the data points that the committee will use to evaluate teams. It seems to go in our favor at this point. Our computer numbers and SOR are better than most of these teams. The only weakness is our record against Q1.
      "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post
        Thanks for doing this. This is an accurate depiction of the data points that the committee will use to evaluate teams. It seems to go in our favor at this point. Our computer numbers and SOR are better than most of these teams. The only weakness is our record against Q1.
        Yes, we basically destroy everyone in most categories EXCEPT Q1 record and Best Win. So it really comes down to whether the whole season matters or just a handful of games.

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        • #5
          Our best win doesn't stack up at all. Our SOS leaves a lot to be desired too.

          It's gonna be Cincinnati in the semis or bust. Period.
          Deuces Valley.
          ... No really, deuces.
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          - a smart man

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          • #6
            was pretty excited about this season based on the names on the front of the jerseys amd the hype behind it... sometimes it doesn't work out. #59 as the best win prob ly won’t get it done without a few wins in fort worth.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by abdullah_sharif View Post
              was pretty excited about this season based on the names on the front of the jerseys amd the hype behind it... sometimes it doesn't work out. #59 as the best win prob ly won’t get it done without a few wins in fort worth.
              Yep, anything less than 2 wins and we’re probably in trouble. I blame the league for doing so poorly in non-con as well, certainly isn’t helping right now.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
                Our best win doesn't stack up at all. Our SOS leaves a lot to be desired too.

                It's gonna be Cincinnati in the semis or bust. Period.
                I want you to be wrong, but...
                Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BOBB View Post
                  I want you to be wrong, but...
                  Just amazing that entire body of work is thrown out the window... Singular games is all that matters

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                  • #10
                    Big 10 has already gamed the NET. Look for the other “Big” conferences to follow. The power conferences would probably do away with non-con altogether if they could.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

                      Just amazing that entire body of work is thrown out the window... Singular games is all that matters
                      Our body of work isn’t great, which leads to a focus on some signature wins, which we don’t have in or out of conference.
                      Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                      • #12
                        The "metric" of best opponent throws NET out the window so I see it as one more way the committee to introduce their biases into the field selection. Winning on the road at a top-75 team is as hard as beating a top 30 team at home. To break it down further, beating teams 41-75 on the road equates with winning at home vs a 16-30 opponent.
                        Shocker Nation, NYC

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                        • #13
                          Can somebody please explain how the NET works? More importantly, how do the FIRST calculations start? Because almost all of these power conference conferences schedule light and heavy on the home cooking. Seems like true non-conference road games should amount to double the value of any other game.

                          I'm not entirely certain ANY team is worthy that can't be at a .501 In-Conference winning percentage MINIMUM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BOBB View Post

                            Our body of work isn’t great, which leads to a focus on some signature wins, which we don’t have in or out of conference.
                            All 6 metrics that they use all of which use the entire body of work disagree with your statement.
                            Last edited by Stickboy46; March 9, 2020, 01:14 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MadaboutWu View Post
                              The "metric" of best opponent throws NET out the window so I see it as one more way the committee to introduce their biases into the field selection. Winning on the road at a top-75 team is as hard as beating a top 30 team at home. To break it down further, beating teams 41-75 on the road equates with winning at home vs a 16-30 opponent.
                              That's halfway accounted for with the Quadrants which I tried to account for here

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