Wichita State out rebounded opponents every game this year. Even in the 2 losses.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

"George W. Bush is alive and living in Wichita, and his new identity is Garrett Stutz -- but it's still his fault."

(Courtesy of Barack Obama's teleprompter)

that was neither funny or clever.

[WSUwatcher]

that was neither funny or clever.

Sorry you disliked it, Mr. President. Most politicians are a little less thin-skinned. I'll return to our regularly scheduled thread now.

Oh, by the way, it's "neither funny NOR clever." You're welcome.

[SB Shock]

that was neither funny or clever.

actually that is kind of funny and clever.

[im4wsu]

Aomebody asked how we rebounded against opponents compared to their norm.

[RoyalShock]

If I understand that chart correctly, here is the actual difference between the opponent's norm and their game vs. WSU:

CSU      16.8
CU       15.5
BAMA      7.7
Temple    2.2
UAB      11.3
CS-Full  20.1
UNLV      8.6
Tulsa    13.2
Utah St  11.9
Chic St  11.9

That puts the average at 11.9 (or -11.9 from the opponent's perspective). Using that number, here is what we would expect against our Valley brethren (rounded), based on their current rebounding margins:

BU    +10
CU    +9
DU    +13
UE    +23
InSU  +13
ISU   +8
MSU   +13
UNI   +14
SIU   +14

[Maggie]

Hannah started two years at the point and did not drive the lane. Ragland has started 1.5 years at the point and did not drive the lane much last year. Murry is a three year starter that did not drive the paint much until this year. Hatch, as a two year starter didn't drive the lane much. Kyles stays away from contact. Hawkins was the starter before Hatch and he also didn't get to the line much. HCGMs first year had Cous at the 3 and he DID drive the paint. shockers shot more FTs than their opponents.

Basically what I'm saying is that up until the last 3 games we have not had consistent dribble-drive penetration from our guards since this years seniors arrived as freshman. I think it has more to do with their personallity than HCGMs coaching philosophy. I think our FT attempts will go up the more TM drives the lane and the more the Beast gets the ball in the paint. Both of them can create contact and finish.

I agree - and Murry is getting better at using his mid-range game. And Rags has been taking the ball inside to create opportunities for himself and others; Kyles as well but not enough. I think Murry, Rags, and Kyles understand they need to try and penatrate - and I think they are just trying to do it within the offense.

But to execute they way one should - you have to love, want, even initiate - contact. I think, at long last, Murry, Kyles, and Rags are coming around.

[Kung Wu]

If I understand that chart correctly, here is the actual difference between the opponent's norm and their game vs. WSU:

CSU      16.8
CU       15.5
BAMA      7.7
Temple    2.2
UAB      11.3
CS-Full  20.1
UNLV      8.6
Tulsa    13.2
Utah St  11.9
Chic St  11.9

That puts the average at 11.9 (or -11.9 from the opponent's perspective). Using that number, here is what we would expect against our Valley brethren (rounded), based on their current rebounding margins:

BU    +10
CU    +9
DU    +13
UE    +23
InSU  +13
ISU   +8
MSU   +13
UNI   +14
SIU   +14

If you multiply those times our average "points off rebounds" and do the same thing for turnovers, you should be able to tell us how much we win each game by. Woohoo!!

[another shocker]

Wichita State is similar to Michigan State.

I thought the board situation would be different this year, but no. Marshall (like Izzo) has his team hitting the boards year in and year out, it seems.

[60Shock]

Drive the lanes, hit the boards, and make the FT's. There is nothing not to like about it.