Shockers vs UAB Ticket Special

[Kung Wu]

Off topic, but Kung Wu, you really, REALLY need to empty your PM mail so that you can receive incoming email, like soon.

Done. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't even know it was full. :)

[WuDrWu]

It may be full now.

[Shock-Til-U-Drop]

If we win the P.R. tournament and climb in the rankings, I betch the tickets start flying off the shelf.

That's the Shockers vs. UAB ticket special!

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

If we win the P.R. tournament and climb in the rankings, I betch the tickets start flying off the shelf.

That's the Shockers vs. UAB ticket special!

Agreed. Once the season gets started, excitement will grow and tickets will start flying. Once season ticket holders realize this game isn't part of their package that will be a big shot in the arm too.

I'm coming back to ICT from Denver for the game so I'm stoked!

[SumShocker]

Link at intrustbank.com for coupon for $10 off the $47 tickets.

[RoyalShock]

I think we're going to end up taking advantage of the 4 for $100 deal.

I wonder if the $10-off of the $47 tickets means they still aren't selling well.

[shocker3]

Unfortunately I will be in Omaha over Thanksgiving weekend, so I will have to miss that game. I do hope they get a great crowd.

[ShockerFever]

I think we're going to end up taking advantage of the 4 for $100 deal.

I wonder if the $10-off of the $47 tickets means they still aren't selling well.

Bingo.

Shocker fans should feel proud to know the K-State game in Wichita is going to sell out, while the WSU game in Wichita is going to be half-sold. I'm sure Marshall will be thrilled to walk onto the floor in a half-empty arena.

[shox1989]

Bingo.

Shocker fans should feel proud to know the K-State game in Wichita is going to sell out, while the WSU game in Wichita is going to be half-sold. I'm sure Marshall will be thrilled to walk onto the floor in a half-empty arena.

I have my tickets and I will be there. I just hope Shocker fans wake up and start buying tickets. I think the Ksu people were smart enough to offer a lot of more reasonably priced seats (and not to schedule the game the day after Thanksgiving AND not to schedule it against a team that is picked in to finish in the middle of the pack in a NON-BcS conference).

But that is no excuse. We need to sell out the arena regardless.

If the arena ends up being just half full then I don't ever want to hear again what great basketball fans we are.

[ShockTalk]

Bingo.

Shocker fans should feel proud to know the K-State game in Wichita is going to sell out, while the WSU game in Wichita is going to be half-sold. I'm sure Marshall will be thrilled to walk onto the floor in a half-empty arena.

I have my tickets and I will be there. I just hope Shocker fans wake up and start buying tickets. I think the Ksu people were smart enough to offer a lot of more reasonably priced seats (and not to schedule the game the day after Thanksgiving AND not to schedule it against a team that is picked in to finish in the middle of the pack in a NON-BcS conference).

But that is no excuse. We need to sell out the arena regardless.

If the arena ends up being just half full then I don't ever want to hear again what great basketball fans we are.

OK, I'll play. So one game over the history of WSU's thick and thin success is going to define its fandom.

So many of us on this fan board should remember that we represent the minority of Shocker fans, particularly when it comes to the board's posters. We are some of the most consumed when it comes to WSU athletics.

Let's try to be a little more objective. WSU was #41 in average attendance in 2010 among 334 DI basketball programs and #7 among non-BCS schools. I think you'll also find that most, if not all, the other 6 non-BCS schools will be located in larger metro areas, have larger student bodies, and/or have a more traditional type of student body. I have no idea what % of their attendance is made up of students, but I would guess most are larger %s than WSU. Even through the lean years of success on the floor, Wichita and WSU's non-current student support has been very good to excellent.

Now we look at this single game to possibly describe WSU's fandom? A game which, as you have said, is the day after Thanksgiving. A time when many travel or have family in, many of whom may have no connection or interest in WSU basketball. A game where many, like it or not, may look at this game much differently than the posters on this board. A game that is local, but not, unlike the Tulsa game, part of the season ticket (unfortunately, they couldn't care less that it is put on by a promoter). They just know they are paying more to see a "team that is picked to finish in the middle of the pack in a non-BCS conference" and that the team has NO special interest to any WSU fan (unlike Tulsa or WV playing K St to a K St fan). By the way, Tulsa did not sell out (about 900 short) and the game was included in the ticket package. The fact that many are spoiled by the atmosphere and seating of the roundhouse and didn't like IBA as well. The fact we have no way of telling just how many people would regularly show up for comparative games at Koch if it seated 15,000. The fact that we're in a financially hard time for individual as well as corporate supporters and that students will now need to pay if they want to go to this game. Oh yes, it's Black Friday for those (women) shoppers and all those who work in retail. But now you say there's no excuse! Well maybe not for you, SF, and me, but that's a pretty broad statement to apply to everyone.

Hopefully, you will not be judged so harshly in life as you might judge others in only a college sport game, something that, to most others, is not as high in the importance ladder.

[pinstripers]

Wow. Well done.

[ShockerFever]

I hope that explanation flies for Marshall, ST. Because he is gonna comment about it and then you can bring it up with him..

All I'm saying is that it's gonna look bad. You can line the floor with excuses, like Black Friday.. Are there really Black Friday sales going on at 7:00 at night? It's a WSU game in Wichita. We've had plenty of games fall around the Thanksgiving holiday in the past.

No, we are not defined by one game as a fanbase. But games like these will determine whether outside promoters in the future will wanna schedule us with a potential BCS foe at IBA.

Who cares, I guess.

[Veritas]

Not having this game sold out or at least having it attended by more than the Koch capacity certainly hurts WSU's credibility. One can look at the opponent (UAB), ticket prices (ADES is part owner of this), or the date and use all of these as supposed reasons. WSU needs to market this game and drive for results in getting it sold out.

[ShockTalk]

I hope that explanation flies for Marshall, ST. Because he is gonna comment about it and then you can bring it up with him..

All I'm saying is that it's gonna look bad. You can line the floor with excuses, like Black Friday.. Are there really Black Friday sales going on at 7:00 at night? It's a WSU game in Wichita. We've had plenty of games fall around the Thanksgiving holiday in the past.

No, we are not defined by one game as a fanbase. But games like these will determine whether outside promoters in the future will wanna schedule us with a potential BCS foe at IBA.

Who cares, I guess.

SF, I would hope that promoters are not so short sighted as to judge a turnout, by a solid fan base, by a so-so interest game. If they do, they will be mistaken in their judgment. A game with top opponents who would interest local fans (or not even as good of BCS teams), especially ones that have added regional interest, will not disappoint a promoter. Sorry, but UAB just doesn't have much to interest area fans. In my book, it's a risk team to bring in.

I also hope that HCGM already understands many of the things I brought up. I have no idea how many season tickets are bought by businesses, but what's their incentive to buy just as many seats for this game when many have seats going empty at Koch (that's the case around where I sit anyway). Also, if averaging over 10,000 per game is as big a thing as it appears to be, I would think that having 10,000 (manying paying extra over their season tickets) show up to see a non-interest type game, especially given all the "excuses" I brought up, would be a great thing. That's only 2/3s full.

I've said it before, games at IBA should fall into 2 categories: 1) Quality 1 and 1's where teams are playing at "neutral" sites here and away and, with some exception, the games are part of the season ticket, and 2) Games against teams that we would not otherwise be able to see at Koch and would cost extra (not part of the season ticket package). Any other game should be considered as having much more risk attached.

[shockmonster]

I often don't agree with SF and don't choose to use my words like he does, and have been attending games for more than 40 years. However, I will agree with him in this instance. I will say that a significant portion (how much can be of debate) of the Shocker fan base is of an age where they are set in their ways and change is very hard for them and sometimes they care more about how they feel than what is best for the program. In my opinion, this game and other future games at IBA fit into this category. Often, age and wisdom fit together nicely but in my opinion, not in this instance.