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It is becoming hard to watch this team since is appears we are now regressing, there is absolutely NO chemistry on this team. To me it appears that the seniors think they can do it all themselves, never pass the ball inside when our center works his butt off to get open, drives in amongst the trees and blindly and throws up a prayer, dribble, dribble, dribble until they are forced to take a last second shot . Sometimes I wonder what coach sees in the film sessions, how can he not make some changes in players playing times. I am quite sure recruits watching this embarrassing performance will not be lining up to play here.
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I have watched Shocker basketball faithfully for over 50 years, this is some of the most embarrassing basketball I have seen. Maybe I just have much higher expectations. -
Did you sleep during the 90’s? Can’t blame you if you did, but there is zero comparison. We would be 0-19 with most of those teams and losing games by 40-50 points.
Probably time we all get some shut-eye and revaluate tomorrow. Let’s support our team Wednesday night and help get them out of this funk. -
Wow B1ShockFan, you edited the post that I was referencing. Originally your post said "...they (recruits) want to play on teams that expect to win." For some reason you changed it to "...expect to play smart." 3G has created a national brand out of Shocker basketball and when a kid gets an offer from him it means something more than I ever thought it would just a few years back. I have been watching WSU basketball since about 1975 and we have had more success in the past 7 years than we had in the previous 40. I guess I know why you changed your post. I would agree with the overall sentiment that our team doesn't play smart right now, but considering the high BBIQ of guys like FVV, Ron Baker, and Landry Shamet (not to mention countless others like Wessel, Cotton, Frankamp, et al) I think recruits know that they may come in not playing too smart but will be given every opportunity to change that.
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That doesn’t sound good for Poor Bear. He may be the latest player to go the Shocker version of “One and Done”.Originally posted by Stickboy46 View PostComment
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I think this is a fair observation. What do Marshall and the coaches see during film sessions? There is absolutely zero adjustments being made from game to game on offense. It's the same trash over and over and over. There are little to no sets. It's mainly the two seniors chucking up shots and hope for rebounders there for putbacks. That's it. There's no attempt to get the ball inside at all.Originally posted by B1ShockFan View Post
That is definitely the most frustrating thing during this latest stretch is the repeating of the same thing over and over. It seems like Marshall is hellbent on "letting it ride on the seniors", as he has said as much in his postgame interviews. I'm not quite sure I understand that strategy. It appears our seniors aren't quite as good as we think they are as they are "carrying" us to a 1-6 conference record out of the shoot and some dismal, dismal offensive outputs. Too much one-on-one ball and assists are at an all-time low. So what do we do? Run the same damn **** the next game. I'm honestly wondering what happens at practice during the week.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Someone help me out here. Is a tactic such as intentionally sitting players, so they get so frustrated on the bench, they'll ask for a transfer something that is used in college? Or can a college coach simply pull a scholarship at the end of the year and let him find another school?Comment
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Scholarships are year to year I believe. That said.... Pulling scholarships wouldn't exactly help recruitingOriginally posted by Shox The Revenant View PostComment
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We will see better players next year, mark my word.Comment
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This roster doesn’t have “plus” players. I don’t care if it is loaded with newcomers, all of them except IPBC have had enough time to show the “it” factor required lead be a top 50 team down the road.
I like every one one of the freshman, but I don’t expect any of them to be anything more than solid glue guys. Their basic skill sets and athleticism don’t translate into future stars.
Matty B., Sean O., PJ, Howard, Burns, Kampman, Evans, Perez all showed tangible upside by this time in their careers.
HCGM has a lot of work to do.
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I do think that Dexter will be an exceptional player. He is an incredible athlete, seems to genuinely want to be a good defender and has shown that he is capable already. I am waiting for him to flip the aggression switch. I think him (and the others) are still not confident about where they are to be offensively (thinking more than reacting). I am hoping that when he gets that confidence and feels comfortably within the offense he is going to be more aggressive. -
Definitely. I wonder if almost all FR are like that (need to expand their skills) but most aren't in a position to have to play the minutes our guys are so those current weaknesses aren't exposed as brightly. I really like the apparent attitude of the new guys - from the get go I've felt like they are guys that bring their lunch pail to practice and work hard. Each guy has things to work on, but there are a lot that they do well and I don't think any are overmatched physically.
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Kinda funny how many posters only post after losses or bad times. And how many of them have "been fans for decades"Comment
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"You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"Comment
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We probably won’t lose again. 14-0 and danceComment
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If we have one of the toughest schedules in basketball this year then we’ve got a lot of quality losses.Comment
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I mean. Look at the team sheetsOriginally posted by Dave Stalwart View Post
https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi...wMode%3DSimple
We are 3-9 vs Q1/Q2
Memphis is 0-6
Creighton is 3-8
That's before today's game to. So 3-10. 13 Q1/Q2 games so far
EDIT: All AAC for that same stat
WSU 3-10
Memphis 0-6
Cincy 3-2
UCF 3-2 (0 Q1 games)
Temple 5-3
Houston 9-1
UCONN 1-8
USF 0-4
Tulsa 2-7
SMU 1-5
ECU 1-6
Tulane 0-6
So 13 games for us , next closest is Houston at 10. Only Houston and Temple have won more. Only 4 of our last 11 games are q1/q2Last edited by Stickboy46; January 26, 2019, 11:43 PM.Comment
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One thing I've noticed. When the ball does get inside and the big guy is covered, from time to time they find a shooter open for a 3 and successfully get the ball to them. The player receiving the pass promptly dribbles out of shooting range or throws an outlet pass to get the ball to center of the court about 10' past the 3-point line to "set up the offense".
The shooting % from 3 might be better if players would take the open looks they get when the offense actually works. The percentages wouldn't be as badly damages by the desperation heaves at the end of the shot clock.
Maybe our perimeter guys are not good at using screens because they (the two with experience past HS) are small and can't shoot over a screen set by Midtgaard or Echenique.The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.Comment
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Good point, Aargh.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of catch and shoot willingness, with Haynes-Jones being a particular offender in my observation. If he's going to end up launching anyway, as he often seems to do, why not do it immediately while he's open instead of making a jab step fake to give his defender a sporting chance ?
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"WSU is shooting just 28.1 percent on unguarded catch-and-shoot jumpers, the 350th-best mark out of 353 teams in the country this season."
Read more here: https://www.kansas.com/sports/colleg...#storylink=cpy
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