No more RPI?

[RoyalShock]

The NCAA is adopting a new metric - NET.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-08-22/division-i-mens-basketball-committee-adopts-new-ranking

The NET was built to create a ranking system that was as accurate as possible while also evaluating team performance fairly. To ensure fairness, certain types of data were omitted from the model. Of key importance, game date and order were omitted to give equal importance to both early and late-season games. In addition, a cap of 10 points was applied to the winning margin to prevent rankings from encouraging unsportsmanlike play, such as needlessly running up the score in a game where the outcome was certain.

I'm not sure 10 points is a big enough cap, but at least they are factoring margin of victory into the metric. I also think late-season games ought to carry a little bit more weight to account for players who returned from injury or became eligible after the 1st semester.

[Stickboy46]

Unless they provide the exact formula used to calculate it .. I have my doubts that it will help anybody but the P5

[SB Shock]

Looks like it a cross of Kenpom and parts of RPI.

[SB Shock]

Looks like it a cross of Kenpom and parts of RPI.

looks like you have to shoot for winning games by 10 pts to maximize your rating (10 points is the cap for point differential).

[SHOCKvalue]

Capping winning margin at 10 handicaps non-P5’s in weak leagues that are otherwise good teams. Like WSU in the MVC, or Gonzaga in the WCC.

So... in other words, it will work as intended. The “yeah, but we don’t know how good you really are” shtick can remain in common refrain.

[SB Shock]

From Matt Norlander

1. NET algorithm powered by artificial intelligence, thus isn’t something that’s “readable”
2. NCAA owns NET metric
3. NET will start w/ weekly unveilings in late-Nov/early Dec
4. NCAA won’t apply NET metric to previous yrs for comparison

1. NCAA doesn't want the Warren Nolan, RPIforecast, etc People to be able to replicate this metric.
2. It is proprietary to the NCAA thus the NCAA not going to release the formula.
3. NCAA wants to be the sole source
4. NCAA doesn't want any criticism, they just want you accept it by faith.

NCAA doesn't want transparency

[AZ Shocker]

From Matt Norlander

NCAA doesn't want transparency

....and a boat load of non deserving p5's in the tourney.

[ShockCrazy]

I like most of this, except the margin cap should be around 20 points. Also the lack of transparency is worrisome. I imagine someone will figure out how to replicate it as happened with RPI, but these first few years we won't have it.

[Kung Wu]

From Matt Norlander




1. NCAA doesn't want the Warren Nolan, RPIforecast, etc People to be able to replicate this metric.
2. It is proprietary to the NCAA thus the NCAA not going to release the formula.
3. NCAA wants to be the sole source
4. NCAA doesn't want any criticism, they just want you accept it by faith.

NCAA doesn't want transparency

Are you serious? They won't release the formula?!? BROKEN SYSTEM. Let's just dive into the black box and put who we want inside, in the order we want to, and call it good.

[ShockingButTrue]

That's the selection committee's MO.

It. Will. Never. Change. No. Matter. What. Stats. Are. Thrown. Out. There.

The Ramblers could never beat a b12 team as far as they're concerned.

[AndShock]

Here’s the hidden formula: 100 pt boost for all P5 teams.

[FlyingWheat]

Forgot how to embed a tweet. Sounds like textbook NCAA

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/st...429286400?s=21

[Kel Varnsen]

[ TWEET ][ /TWEET ]

Take out the spaces and you just paste the link in the middle.

[C0|dB|00ded]

No need for the formula. It will be quickly reverse engineered once the season starts and the NCAA will just look dumb for trying to hide it.

I kind of like diminishing the effect of blowout games so the Syracuse's of the world don't gain from beating Longwood at home by 90. It should also give the cowards slightly more incentive to schedule up as they don't have to blow a team out, just win.


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[proshox]

Then you don’t understand why the metrics liked WSU so much

[C0|dB|00ded]

NA

[RoyalShock]

They ought to look at MOV like a bell curve. Put 10 points in the middle (highest point on the curve). As the margin increases, it's effect on the formula decreases. Cap the effect at 20 points.

[AZ Shocker]

"I had absolutely nothing to do with it. But I like it and think it will be good for college basketball."

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[RoyalShock]