If Allen gets A Waiver From The NCAA

[shockrah]

Is an Allen waiver a possibility?

[SB Shock]

Is an Allen waiver a possibility?

They are hard to get, but they do happen sometimes. I guess it will be how good of case they can make for him.

[Slykryck]

I don’t know that it’s out of the question to see SHJ spend a lot of time playing off-ball on offense. Shot the 3 effectively last year and has the ability/speed to take guys off the dribble. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him getting some starts at the 2 before he lineup finally shakes out.

[ShockingButTrue]

It will help out a lot to have that second ball-handler on the court, due to the amount of inexperience set to play next year. It will balance things out a little I believe.

[wufan]

That would seriously impact the Shox look next season. Let's try a lineup.

1 - Torres - Doesn't know the system, but is an experienced PG
2 - Stevenson - His attitude gives him the "way too early" edge at this spot
3 - Allen - Teddy "Buckets" can score without using any "system". Puts a whole new spin on Torres at PG and nobody solid in the system first semester.
4 - McDuffie - Potentially a true stretch 4, who does pretty good with offensive boards and second-chance points.
5 - Midtgaard- Physically imposing on D and sets solid screens. Probably learned a little more than we saw last year.

That's 1 Sr, 1 Jr, 2 So's, and only 1 Fr.

The screening game could get to be an impromptu, on the spot, type of game when the wheels come off the intricacies of the system plays. It's not hard to see where Midtgaard is on the court, and Stevenson, Torres, and especially Allen can use that big body to get a step. If Allen gets a step, he's in layup drill mode.

There are a lot of newcomers we're not that familiar with. Burton and Dennis are major unknowns compared to some of the rest. Brown is another mystery player. I put Stevenson in there because he has an attitude that will go a long way in practices.

I think Moore could easily be the SF, moving Allen to SG.

Might want to close your eyes when the Shox are on the defensive end, but that was kind of the case last year.

That is a fun starting line-up! Likely next five would be SHJ and Burton (1 & 2), Dennis at the 3, Brown at the 4, and either Udeze or Echineque at the 5. Moore and Chandler have to prove it on D before I can move them into the rotation.

[Aargh]

I would be encouraged if SHJ started at any time next year. That would mean he went from last option off the bench to starter. It would mean he could beat out a JuCo AA for a starting spot. That would indicate a tremendous amount of growth and development. A TREMENDOUS amount.

But, please, please not at SG. He's seriously undersized for a SG.

[Shockm]

We forget that SHJ was a Juco All American. Everyone becomes a mature Div. 1 player at their own pace. Are you or anyone sure which of our recruits are ready for upper Div. 1 College Basketball? There is no way to know until they compete against the best players.

[SB Shock]

We really need some scrimmage reports from some of the SN faithful when they start in June.

[WichitaStateGuy]

What's the time-table on this type of thing? Should we expect a verdict from the NCAA this week?

[Slykryck]

I would be encouraged if SHJ started at any time next year. That would mean he went from last option off the bench to starter. It would mean he could beat out a JuCo AA for a starting spot. That would indicate a tremendous amount of growth and development. A TREMENDOUS amount.

But, please, please not at SG. He's seriously undersized for a SG.

He the same size as Frankamp. Actually has him by a few pounds.

[1972Shocker]

That is true and Conner was undersized for a shooting guard and it clearly was a challenge for him during his college career and perhaps even more so against the length and athleticism of the AAC. Samajae needs to be able to play the pont to make his most effective contribution.

[Slykryck]

Problem for CF wasn’t just his size though. He didn’t have the speed to take players off the dribble. SHJ has a different problem...he can take them off the dribble, just couldn’t finish.

[WstateU]

What's the time-table on this type of thing? Should we expect a verdict from the NCAA this week?

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[ShockerPrez]

Why does anyone expect Allen would get a waiver? I'm sure I probably missed something, but wondering what his circumstances are? Is it because of family reasons?

[jdshock]

Why does anyone expect Allen would get a waiver? I'm sure I probably missed something, but wondering what his circumstances are? Is it because of family reasons?

[ShockerPrez]

Thanks. Cant see tweets on the mobile SN site. Makes sense now.

[choida]

When should we have an answer for this opportunity?

[pinstripers]

He the same size as Frankamp. Actually has him by a few pounds.

inch or two or three shorter, yes?

[Slykryck]

Haven’t seen them side by side, but both are listed at 6’0. SHJ listed like 5-10 pounds heavier.

[WstateU]

nm

[Slykryck]

Well damn. And I fed into it.

[WstateU]

inch or two or three shorter, yes?

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[Singeril]

It would be great for the appeal to go through...I just don't think it's going to happen.

[C0|dB|00ded]

I personally think Allen getting a waiver makes things too crowded unless he forces a freshman to redshirt.

We are absolutely loaded from top to bottom. There aren't many dice rolls as far as talent on this roster. Everybody can play.


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[ShockTalk]

I believe who Allen's situation effects most, to varying degrees and who he may push to another position, are Burton, Dennis, Stevenson, Moore, and Brown, all freshmen. Assuming no RS other than Allen, I guess I don't see the difference.
1) you have all the freshmen and one soph this year
2) he redshirts and you have them all being sophs next year

[Aargh]

The difference is that we're better this year ('18-'19) than we would be with Allen sitting. Then if a Fr takes a shirt, we're better down the road with a 5-year guy out of the Fr class.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Gregg Marshall is not exactly consumed by the idea of having balanced classes. He wants the best team on the floor every year within reason. This being his most talented class to date, I think he can afford to ease up on the depth. At some point depth begins to hurt when you can't even develop your players.


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