Attendance numbers

[Anthroshock]

What we all know about WSU, but it is very surprising to see that Butler does not fill Hinkle more than it does.

http://rushthecourt.net/2011/04/27/ncaa-attendance-figures-a-closer-examination/

[SHOCKvalue]

Interesting perspective and analyzation.

Thanks.

[Shox21]

Interesting to note that 3 of the top 7 are Kansas' top three universities (ah yes and that includes our "flagship" school).

[ShockTalk]

Good find. Very interesting approach.

Really surprised by George Mason, Butler, Pittsburgh, and Temple. Anytime you get above 15,000 seating, the % of capacity could suffer, so BYU can be forgiven if they "only" drew an average 18,700. I'm not sure the same can be said for Ohio St.

Maybe one of our Mason posters can give us a better view of their surprising numbers.

[RoyalShock]

It is a good analysis, but as ST pointed out, there needs to be some threshold for which a fan base (like BYU) is above criticism.

Enrollment, alumni base, city size, conference affiliation and arena capacity are all factors that would go into an ideal analysis.

RTC is on the right path but could probably go even further. Someone call Ken Pomeroy.

[NCAABound]

See 3G....we are better than South Carolina...by 1 fan per game! :D

I'm skeptical of some of these numbers...as I know lots of schools give the students a few thousand seats that are counted. And some of BCS bottom-feeders look like they fudge their numbers a bit by some of the games I witnessed.

[SHOCKvalue]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

[SubGod22]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

Everyone pretty much goes by tickets sold.

[SHOCKvalue]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

Everyone pretty much goes by tickets sold.

Is that an assumption, or factual knowledge? Just curious. That would explain K-State's place on the list, in spite of the fact Bramlage seems to be a ghost town when K-State's not playing conference or someone of note.

So season tickets as a constant + walk-up/single-session + students (however they do that)?

[SubGod22]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

Everyone pretty much goes by tickets sold.

Is that an assumption, or factual knowledge? Just curious. That would explain K-State's place on the list, in spite of the fact Bramlage seems to be a ghost town when K-State's not playing conference or someone of note.

So season tickets as a constant + walk-up/single-session + students (however they do that)?

Factual knowledge. It'd be tough to find a school that doesn't do it that way.

[SHOCKvalue]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

Everyone pretty much goes by tickets sold.

Is that an assumption, or factual knowledge? Just curious. That would explain K-State's place on the list, in spite of the fact Bramlage seems to be a ghost town when K-State's not playing conference or someone of note.

So season tickets as a constant + walk-up/single-session + students (however they do that)?

Factual knowledge. It'd be tough to find a school that doesn't do it that way.

The reason I ask is we've had a lot of debate over the years as to the how and why of our baseball attendance numbers. Individuals from other schools have taken to task our figures, based on a butts-in-seats standard that others claim are used at their respective school.

[ShockTalk]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

Everyone pretty much goes by tickets sold.

Is that an assumption, or factual knowledge? Just curious. That would explain K-State's place on the list, in spite of the fact Bramlage seems to be a ghost town when K-State's not playing conference or someone of note.

So season tickets as a constant + walk-up/single-session + students (however they do that)?

Factual knowledge. It'd be tough to find a school that doesn't do it that way.

Therefore, most all schools' numbers are skewed in the same direction, so the rankings would still be relevant.

[SubGod22]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

Everyone pretty much goes by tickets sold.

Is that an assumption, or factual knowledge? Just curious. That would explain K-State's place on the list, in spite of the fact Bramlage seems to be a ghost town when K-State's not playing conference or someone of note.

So season tickets as a constant + walk-up/single-session + students (however they do that)?

Factual knowledge. It'd be tough to find a school that doesn't do it that way.

The reason I ask is we've had a lot of debate over the years as to the how and why of our baseball attendance numbers. Individuals from other schools have taken to task our figures, based on a butts-in-seats standard that others claim are used at their respective school.

I'd guess that those individuals just want to try and get a leg up somehow. Maybe baseball is different somehow, but I'd be shocked if a school wouldn't use tickets sold in all sports. You want as positive an image as you can put out there and tickets sold are revenue made, so why not count them? CKA is constantly "sold out" but we can always find a few seats not being used. It doesn't matter that they weren't used as it's still a sell out and they can do no more to put butts in the seats at that point.

[SHOCKvalue]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

Everyone pretty much goes by tickets sold.

Is that an assumption, or factual knowledge? Just curious. That would explain K-State's place on the list, in spite of the fact Bramlage seems to be a ghost town when K-State's not playing conference or someone of note.

So season tickets as a constant + walk-up/single-session + students (however they do that)?

Factual knowledge. It'd be tough to find a school that doesn't do it that way.

Therefore, most all schools' numbers are skewed in the same direction, so the rankings would still be relevant.

Sort of.

From a fiscal perspective of the school, yes, but not for a judge of consistent atmosphere and overall fan exuberance (which I think is probably the point of comparing these figures).

[MoValley John]

Anyone know how we compute our attendance numbers. I don't think we're actual butts-in-seats, are we?

Everyone pretty much goes by tickets sold.

Is that an assumption, or factual knowledge? Just curious. That would explain K-State's place on the list, in spite of the fact Bramlage seems to be a ghost town when K-State's not playing conference or someone of note.

So season tickets as a constant + walk-up/single-session + students (however they do that)?

Factual knowledge. It'd be tough to find a school that doesn't do it that way.

Therefore, most all schools' numbers are skewed in the same direction, so the rankings would still be relevant.

Sort of.

From a fiscal perspective of the school, yes, but not for a judge of consistent atmosphere and overall fan exuberance (which I think is probably the point of comparing these figures).

I hate to chime in on your debate, but wouldn't fan exuberance lend to buying season tickets? Even if by purchasing season tickets people knew that they wouldn't be able to attend every or even most games? They showed their support with their checkbook, you showed your support by showing up. Both are showing support, just differently.