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    For the past several years I’ve been on a mission while covering the Final Four. I find anyone associated with the Missouri Valley Conference and lobby the league to add Oral Roberts University as a member.

    My plea has always been met with either silence or negative feedback. But that wasn’t the case at this year’s event in Houston.

    “You’re preaching to the choir,” said one person with MVC connections. “ORU would be a great fit.”

    ORU leaving the Summit League for the MVC may never happen. Or it could come about quicker than many doubters believe.

    The Golden Eagles’ chances apparently come down to one person – Saint Louis University President Rev. Lawrence Bondi. It’s Bondi who has resisted pleas from his own coaches to leave the Atlantic-10 Conference and join the MVC.

    “We belong in the Missouri Valley,” men’s basketball coach Rick Majerus has said repeatedly.

    The MVC would obviously love to add a school that’s located in the same city as the league’s headquarters.

    And if that ever happens, the 10-member MVC would look to expand to 12 schools. Several insiders have said ORU would be a strong contender to be that 12th school.

    MVC officials are aware of the dramatic impact Mart Green and his family have had on ORU’s financial stability. In the past, those MVC administrators always dismissed my campaign because they knew the school at 81st and Lewis faced some serious financial issues.

    The MVC, which was once home to the University Tulsa and had its headquarters in T-Town, has a great basketball tradition. It’s also a much better geographical fit for ORU that the Summit League, which is also the reason Majerus wants out of the A-10.

    “The A-10’s a good league, but you’ve got to cross two states,” Majerus told reporters in January 2010, after the Billikens played against A-10 member Fordham, which is located in Bronx, N.Y. “You want to fly to Rhode Island, New York, Charlotte, all those places and stay out and spend and be in high-end cities, or do you want to go on a bus and go to Bradley and Southern Illinois and Indiana State and those places?”

    I haven’t contacted ORU officials to gauge their interest because they aren’t about to say anything to upset their Summit League partners. But it’s well known that they would love to become part of the tradition-rich MVC.

    Well it ever happen? For now, that’s apparently up Rev. Bondi, the school president since 1987 who has stubbornly resisted the suggestions of the outspoken Majerus and other SLU coaches.

    Bondi, who CBSSports.com college basketball writer Gary Parrish once wrote has a “famously massive ego,” obviously isn’t going to be at SLU forever. But it would be nice if he changed his mind soon, because I’m running out of Final Four lobbying opportunities.
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    If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by AndShock
      If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.
      We could just axe the Indiana schools and add ORU and SLU I guess.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by AndShock
        If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.
        12 team conference usually means 2 divisions of 6 teams.

        We'd probably be stuck with MSU, ORU, Creighton, STL and probably UNI.


        Whoopie.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by XManCometh
          Originally posted by AndShock
          If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.
          12 team conference usually means 2 divisions of 6 teams.

          We'd probably be stuck with MSU, ORU, Creighton, STL and probably UNI.


          Whoopie.
          We wouldn't get SLU. It'd be Drake instead.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SubGod22
            Originally posted by XManCometh
            Originally posted by AndShock
            If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.
            12 team conference usually means 2 divisions of 6 teams.

            We'd probably be stuck with MSU, ORU, Creighton, STL and probably UNI.


            Whoopie.
            We wouldn't get SLU. It'd be Drake instead.
            I just figured they'd stick both Missouri schools together for "rivalry" purposes. I'd much rather have Drake.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by XManCometh
              Originally posted by SubGod22
              Originally posted by XManCometh
              Originally posted by AndShock
              If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.
              12 team conference usually means 2 divisions of 6 teams.

              We'd probably be stuck with MSU, ORU, Creighton, STL and probably UNI.


              Whoopie.
              We wouldn't get SLU. It'd be Drake instead.
              I just figured they'd stick both Missouri schools together for "rivalry" purposes. I'd much rather have Drake.
              At the expense of the two Iowa schools? They need it much more. And SLU is closer to SIU and probably Peoria as well.

              Either way, it's not all that great...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by XManCometh
                Originally posted by SubGod22
                Originally posted by XManCometh
                Originally posted by AndShock
                If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.
                12 team conference usually means 2 divisions of 6 teams.

                We'd probably be stuck with MSU, ORU, Creighton, STL and probably UNI.


                Whoopie.
                We wouldn't get SLU. It'd be Drake instead.
                I just figured they'd stick both Missouri schools together for "rivalry" purposes. I'd much rather have Drake.
                ....why? At least SLU plays in something other than a high school gym.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AndShock
                  Originally posted by XManCometh
                  Originally posted by SubGod22
                  Originally posted by XManCometh
                  Originally posted by AndShock
                  If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.
                  12 team conference usually means 2 divisions of 6 teams.

                  We'd probably be stuck with MSU, ORU, Creighton, STL and probably UNI.


                  Whoopie.
                  We wouldn't get SLU. It'd be Drake instead.
                  I just figured they'd stick both Missouri schools together for "rivalry" purposes. I'd much rather have Drake.
                  ....why? At least SLU plays in something other than a high school gym.

                  IMO, SLU is better than Drake. I'd rather have a few easy wins on the schedule if we're stuck with MSU, Creighton, UNI and ORU.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SubGod22
                    Originally posted by AndShock
                    If we were to add ORU and St. Louis, I'd rather kick out two current members than have a 12 team conference. But I don't see any conference changes happening any time soon, Elgin is too boring to do anything.
                    We could just axe the Indiana schools and add ORU and SLU I guess.
                    the MVC cutting off it's greatest ever in Odum? oh hellz no! he is the greatest PG in MVC history and he got screwed on POY, FOY, and soon to be screwed in the NBA draft even though he isn't entering it.

                    get real fool! :D

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                    • #11
                      Someone do the math, how would baseball align with Dallas Baptist joining next season.

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                      • #12
                        ORU and St. Louis could replace Creighton and Wichita State who join the Major League.
                        In the fast lane

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tropicalshox
                          ORU and St. Louis could replace Creighton and Wichita State who join the Major League.
                          Now that one I like.

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                          • #14
                            I really don't see where ORU joining the Valley helps anyone but ORU. At least, from a basketball standpoint, which is the only one that matters, IMO.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RoyalShock
                              I really don't see where ORU joining the Valley helps anyone but ORU. At least, from a basketball standpoint, which is the only one that matters, IMO.
                              They've had some respectable teams. The thought has to be, do you think they can do more with the program if they can sell the Valley as well? Conference affiliation can help some schools achieve more. Just have to wonder if ORU is one of those schools.

                              Although, with the current trend line of the Valley, I'm not sure it's helping anybody...
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