vcu...wow.....

[molly jabali]

...you know, it's disappointing now, but...4 points to uconn....12 to sdsu...1 to vcu.....pretty good shocker team,this season....

[ShockerFever]

wow............ :roll:

[wsushox1]

Yup.

[Ta Town Shocker]

VCU has played much better than I expected in the tournament.

I apologize if this has already been brought up but I have been reading the board the last few weeks and haven't seen anyone point out the eerie similarities to our record this year and our record in the 2005-06 campaign. The pre post season record was 24-8 in both years. I have listed the losses below. The wins are against similar grade opponents also. The only conclusion that i can come up with as to why we received a 7 seed then and are playing in the NIT this year is that the Valley as a whole had a Non-conference record much better than it did this season. All I've got to say is that I hope the conference as a whole improves in the coming years. I would like to the Valley getting at least 2 bids in the NCAA's again.

05-06 losses
#15 Illinois
#14 Michigan State
4 MVC conference losses
loss in bracketbuster to CAA opponent
2nd MVC Tourney game

2010-2011 losses
UConn currently # 9
SDSU currently # 6
4 MVC conference losses
loss in bracketbuster to CAA opponent
2nd MVC Tourney game

[shocker3]

VCU has played much better than I expected in the tournament.

I apologize if this has already been brought up but I have been reading the board the last few weeks and haven't seen anyone point out the eerie similarities to our record this year and our record in the 2005-06 campaign. The pre post season record was 24-8 in both years. I have listed the losses below. The wins are against similar grade opponents also. The only conclusion that i can come up with as to why we received a 7 seed then and are playing in the NIT this year is that the Valley as a whole had a Non-conference record much better than it did this season. All I've got to say is that I hope the conference as a whole improves in the coming years. I would like to the Valley getting at least 2 bids in the NCAA's again.

05-06 losses
#15 Illinois
#14 Michigan State
4 MVC conference losses
loss in bracketbuster to CAA opponent
2nd MVC Tourney game

2010-2011 losses
UConn currently # 9
SDSU currently # 6
4 MVC conference losses
loss in bracketbuster to CAA opponent
2nd MVC Tourney game

The difference is those conference games. In 2006 we had 5 conference members finish in the top 50 in rpi. We also had a few more in the top 100.

This year only MO St finished in the top 50 and only WSU and Indy St finished in the top 100.

That is a big difference and is why we got 4 teams in the dance in 2006 (and we got a 7 seed) and only 1 team this year with a 14 seed.

[shockall]

Sounds like some SN'ers are still trying to find anyway that will comfort themselves into believing that this was a "very" successful basketball year. It ain't gonna happen in most people's minds.

[eeshocker]

IMO, the 2006 team beats this years team by 10+ points easily. I also think that team would have run the table on the Valley this year.

[Ta Town Shocker]

IMO, the 2006 team beats this years team by 10+ points easily. I also think that team would have run the table on the Valley this year.

I was only comparing the records, not the teams.

Also I'm not sure that the verdict is out as to whether this season has been a success or not; there is still the potential for a lot of basketball yet to play.

[proshox]

I sometimes feel the 06 team is over valued based on the tournament run. The first round match-up against SH was an absolute give me. The at large field that year would have a 90 percent winning percentage against SH....

[molly jabali]

no, not trying to reconcile this to a 'great 'season...but more of'how close this truly was'...with some better finishes at home.

[eeshocker]

IMO, the 2006 team beats this years team by 10+ points easily. I also think that team would have run the table on the Valley this year.

I was only comparing the records, not the teams.

Also I'm not sure that the verdict is out as to whether this season has been a success or not; there is still the potential for a lot of basketball yet to play.

Don't get me wrong, I still think there is a slim chance they can turn this season into a success (it's going to involve a trip to NYC though). I was only pointing out that while the records may be similar, the 2006 wins in the Valley hold much more weight.

[eeshocker]

I sometimes feel the 06 team is over valued based on the tournament run. The first round match-up against SH was an absolute give me. The at large field that year would have a 90 percent winning percentage against SH....

They won the regular season MVC title by 2 games in probably the best year the conference has had in 20 years. The sweet 16 was just icing on the cake for me.

[shock-it-to-me]

IMO, the 2006 team beats this years team by 10+ points easily. I also think that team would have run the table on the Valley this year.

I was only comparing the records, not the teams.

Also I'm not sure that the verdict is out as to whether this season has been a success or not; there is still the potential for a lot of basketball yet to play.

Even if we win the NIT, this season will still be a huge failure in my mind.

[ShoxFan963]

I always felt that VCU was never given enough credit. They are a very athletic team and can play some ball. They are a better team than us at least the night we played them anyway.

[SB Shock]

Also I'm not sure that the verdict is out as to whether this season has been a success or not; there is still the potential for a lot of basketball yet to play.

The verdict is already out - this season is a disappointment.

Another march and another year where WSU is not participating in March Madness. We are left with a WSU playing on a sunday morning at 10am in the Not Important Tournament.