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I have always felt that way.
There are trade-offs of course:
1. A team that was hot for most of the season but tanks late may get the bid instead of team that comes on strong.
2. Conference tournaments bring in revenue. That would be lost either due to lower attendance or being dropped altogether.
3. Players and fans stay interested and focused since there's always a chance (see Indiana St.)
But for me the bottom line is that three games shouldn't cancel out 18 (in the case of the MVC).
Conference tourneys could still have significance as teams play for seeding or to improve their NCAA bubble position. For lesser conferences have the tournament champion get the auto bid for the NIT. -
My problem is that Illinois State, Bradley, SIU, Drake, and Evansville would have all been left playing for nothing by mid-January. Creighton, UNI, and Indiana State would have been out of it with several weeks to go. By placing importance on the conference tournament, the regular season becomes more important because seeding becomes more important. For example, just making it up to 6th place increases your chances of winning in St. Louis dramatically.
I'm not too concerned when upsets happen. The really good teams still receive atlarge bids. When I step asside from my WSU fandom and look at the big picture, I don't really care all that much who it is that fills the 12, 13, 14, 15, & 16 seeds. As long as there is a reasonable process for placing them, I'm fine with it.
Also, non of this mentions how awsome conference tourneys are for the fans. Just wait until WSU finally wins St. Louis some year when we weren't in the atlarge picture.Comment
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I think bye games in conference tourneys solve most of the "meaningless" regular season problems. It'd be nice to put more emphasis on the regular season, I just don't think it's possible (I wouldn't like it either) to eliminate conference tourneys.Comment
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I like the Horizon tournament bracket. It gives the top 2 seeds are huge advantage over the rest of the field.Originally posted by AndShock
It allows the top two seeds to have two byes and thus they only need to win two games for the auto bid. They are also a 10 team league. Considering that in any given year the Valley will have at most, two at-large potential teams, this tournament benefits the league and helps avoid a top team having a "bad loss." In additon to the 2 round byes, the top seeds will be rested and the other teams would be playing their 3rd game in the semi-finals.Spoiler Alert: Bruce Willis was dead the whole time!Comment
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I also like this set up. The MVC's play-in round system merely punishes the bottom four teams by making them play an extra game rather than rewarding the top 2 teams (since they get no more byes than the 3-6 teams).Originally posted by Smooth007I like the Horizon tournament bracket. It gives the top 2 seeds are huge advantage over the rest of the field.Originally posted by AndShock
It allows the top two seeds to have two byes and thus they only need to win two games for the auto bid. They are also a 10 team league. Considering that in any given year the Valley will have at most, two at-large potential teams, this tournament benefits the league and helps avoid a top team having a "bad loss." In additon to the 2 round byes, the top seeds will be rested and the other teams would be playing their 3rd game in the semi-finals."Cotton scared me - I left him alone." - B4MSU (Bear Nation poster) in reference to heckling playersComment
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I feel that if you win your regular season championship, you should get an automatic bid to the NCAA. Winning the conference championship is proof enough that a team deserves to be in the tourney."If you're going to do it, you're going to do it right," athletic director Jim Schaus said. "If we're going to put 'Wichita State' across our chest, then every team is going to matter."Comment
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Be careful with your use of the word "deserves".Originally posted by WSU ShockerComment
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Makes a lot more sense (yeah, I know, what does sense have to do with anything) to me to reverse the automatic bid to the conference champ. In our case, the last three tournament games vastly overpower the 18 games it took to win the conferenece. But, money is what drives the whole thing.Originally posted by WSU ShockerComment
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The conferences are rated by a conference RPI. The regular season champs from the top 12 conferences get auto bids and all conferences get their tourney bids as it is now. So basically we are, at most, taking away 6 at-larges. You figure the 1st place teams in the top 6 conferences are going to go dancing. 7-12 is where you may see bubbles.
I would expect this to happen maybe 3 times a year.
So this would also encourage Doug-E-Fresh in St. L to get the conference higher ranked.Comment
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Originally posted by Rosewood
I like this idea. Even this year the Valley is at #12, so we would get 2 bids.Comment
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Regular season champ gets an auto bid. League tourney champ (or runner-up if the tourney and regular season champ are the same) gets a bid.
That makes 62 teams. 2 at-large bids would nicely fill out a 64-team bracket. All revenue from the NCAA tourney is split evenly among all D1 leagues.
If 31 conferences are actually "equal", like the NCAA says, then why shouldn't they equally share in the revenues the NCAA generates? It certainly would help some of the lower conferences.
That might be a bit too socialist to fly.The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.Comment
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The NCAA is all about equality of opportunity, until it comes to the equality of cash distributions.Comment
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I just got myself all worked up.
Indiana State is a good team. Not a great team. Definitely not the best team in our conference by a long shot.
They got hot for 80 minutes in a 30 hour time period. Now they are the only team going to the dance and definitely not the best representative.
I need a cry towel!Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!Comment
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Let's break it down in the MVC. Will our best, most consistent team represent us? They went 1-2 versus the Shocks and I am not sure versus Mo. State? Indiana State took 3rd in our Conference. These Conference Tournaments are a huge money maker. However, in the scheme of things, they feel obligated to give the champions of these Tourneys the NCAA berth, while more deserving and more consistent teams are left behind. Say it isn't so joe. Is it all about the bread? If so, and we only get 1 team in who is not our best overall representitive to win some games, this cost each of our Valley teams money. Why? The more games the Valley plays at the Dance, the more money we each receive. Does this sound fair and equal? Hmmmmmm!!!!!!!
REPLY # 14Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.Comment
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