Toure Murray = Adam Liberty?

[TDSHOX]

This is the conversation we are having at the bar in the Lew. So far most are leaning toward the comparison due to the fact they both play good D but have no shoot. Just wanted to ask the mass pop.

[XManCometh]

Re: Toure Murray = Adam Liberty?

This is the conversation we are having at the bar in the Lew. So far most are leaning toward the comparison due to the fact they both play good D but have no shoot. Just wanted to ask the mass pop.

You must have forgotten Toure's 12 ppg and 43% FG percentage last year. Adam Liberty averaged like 2 ppg here. I'd say it's not even close.

[ShockerFever]

Re: Toure Murray = Adam Liberty?

This is the conversation we are having at the bar in the Lew. So far most are leaning toward the comparison due to the fact they both play good D but have no shoot. Just wanted to ask the mass pop.

You must have forgotten Toure's 12 ppg and 43% FG percentage last year. Adam Liberty averaged like 2 ppg here. I'd say it's not even close.

Using statistics for LAST year is already a fail.

They probably aren't valid comparisons as Liberty seemed to improve with each year he played while Murry is getting worse.

[XManCometh]

Re: Toure Murray = Adam Liberty?

This is the conversation we are having at the bar in the Lew. So far most are leaning toward the comparison due to the fact they both play good D but have no shoot. Just wanted to ask the mass pop.

You must have forgotten Toure's 12 ppg and 43% FG percentage last year. Adam Liberty averaged like 2 ppg here. I'd say it's not even close.

Using statistics for LAST year is already a fail.

They probably aren't valid comparisons as Liberty seemed to improve with each year he played while Murry is getting worse.

Fine. He averaged 10ppg this year with 40% FG Percentage. Sorry to use old stats that are SO off :roll: Liberty never cracked 3 while at Wichita State. Toure also played PG this year after playing SG his first two years. I still don't even see comparisons. Toure's stats looked like they regressed this year, but he was asked to do more playmaking and less shooting. Plus he had 5 minutes per game sliced off last year. Maybe that's where that 2ppg went.

[shockerfan]

Re: Toure Murray = Adam Liberty?

This is the conversation we are having at the bar in the Lew. So far most are leaning toward the comparison due to the fact they both play good D but have no shoot. Just wanted to ask the mass pop.

You must have forgotten Toure's 12 ppg and 43% FG percentage last year. Adam Liberty averaged like 2 ppg here. I'd say it's not even close.

Using statistics for LAST year is already a fail.

They probably aren't valid comparisons as Liberty seemed to improve with each year he played while Murry is getting worse.

Fine. He averaged 10ppg this year with 40% FG Percentage. Sorry to use old stats that are SO off :roll: Liberty never cracked 3 while at Wichita State. Toure also played PG this year after playing SG his first two years.

As the season wore on and Ragland got better Murry played less PG. Didn't think he looked any better playing SG either. Still made alot of dumb decision. He has regressed and just have to hope he finds "it" again this summer.

[ShockerFever]

How many TO's did they each average?

What's Murry's 3 point percentage?

Are you Coach Marshall?

[ShockerFever]

Re: Toure Murray = Adam Liberty?

This is the conversation we are having at the bar in the Lew. So far most are leaning toward the comparison due to the fact they both play good D but have no shoot. Just wanted to ask the mass pop.

You must have forgotten Toure's 12 ppg and 43% FG percentage last year. Adam Liberty averaged like 2 ppg here. I'd say it's not even close.

Using statistics for LAST year is already a fail.

They probably aren't valid comparisons as Liberty seemed to improve with each year he played while Murry is getting worse.

Fine. He averaged 10ppg this year with 40% FG Percentage. Sorry to use old stats that are SO off :roll: Liberty never cracked 3 while at Wichita State. Toure also played PG this year after playing SG his first two years.

As the season wore on and Ragland got better Murry played less PG. Didn't think he looked any better playing SG either. Still made alot of dumb decision. He has regressed and just have to hope he finds "it" again this summer.

+ 1. I hope he finds something but I have major doubts.

[JaminShock]

Then let's use this year's stats:


Murry
9 ppg
5 rpg
3 apg
39% FG, 80% FT

Liberty in 04-05
2.4 ppg
2.4 rpg
3 apg
34% FG, 56% FT

Even Murry at his worst blows Liberty away. This comparison is the same as the 'fire Marshall' stuff- it's fans overreacting and panicking. Calm down, people.

[XManCometh]

Re: Toure Murray = Adam Liberty?

This is the conversation we are having at the bar in the Lew. So far most are leaning toward the comparison due to the fact they both play good D but have no shoot. Just wanted to ask the mass pop.

You must have forgotten Toure's 12 ppg and 43% FG percentage last year. Adam Liberty averaged like 2 ppg here. I'd say it's not even close.

Using statistics for LAST year is already a fail.

They probably aren't valid comparisons as Liberty seemed to improve with each year he played while Murry is getting worse.

Fine. He averaged 10ppg this year with 40% FG Percentage. Sorry to use old stats that are SO off :roll: Liberty never cracked 3 while at Wichita State. Toure also played PG this year after playing SG his first two years.

As the season wore on and Ragland got better Murry played less PG. Didn't think he looked any better playing SG either. Still made alot of dumb decision. He has regressed and just have to hope he finds "it" again this summer.

He shot the ball 107 less times than last year. I'd say he was more focused on playmaking than shooting. Even while at SG.
I'm not saying Toure is the 2nd coming of Aubrey Sherrod, but he's not Adam Freaking Liberty.

[ShockerFever]

Ok, he's not Adam Liberty but he's also not the All-American Marshall thinks he is either.

[XManCometh]

How many TO's did they each average?

What's Murry's 3 point percentage?

Are you Coach Marshall?

Yes. Let's pick the two stat areas where Adam Liberty compares to or beats Toure. Not the 20 others where he doesn't. Is that how arguments are won here? We don't compare ppg, rpg, FT%, FG%, Assists or anything like that?

Ok. Then Toure is exactly like Adam Liberty.

:roll:

[XManCometh]

Ok, he's not Adam Liberty but he's also not the All-American Marshall thinks he is either.

I'll agree with this.

[JaminShock]

Oh, and if you're gonna make a thread about a player, spell his name right.

[ShoxFan45]

How many TO's did they each average?

What's Murry's 3 point percentage?

Are you Coach Marshall?

Yes. Let's pick the two stat areas where Adam Liberty compares to or beats Toure. Not the 20 others where he doesn't. Is that how arguments are won here? We don't compare ppg, rpg, FT%, FG%, Assists or anything like that?

Ok. Then Toure is exactly like Adam Liberty.

:roll:

This.

[tropicalshox]

At least this thread's topic is not quite as off base as the Cohen thread. Close, but the Cohen thread beats it.