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  • Absolutely. I said two weeks ago that we need to have better players to have a better result. I hope they are on the way, though I give Ragland and Smith the benefit of the doubt.

    Talent is nothing without the fire in the gut to rise to the occasion.

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    • Gregg just used one of his timeouts
      First a Baseball fan then a Volleyball fan and then I guess I follow the basketball team.

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      • Originally posted by Shirley Schmidt
        Is there anyone out there who could argue that we didn't have the best talent as a team in the league. And I'm not sure it's even close. Obviously, we dramatically underachieved.
        I don't know about that.

        Best talent?

        I think you need to stand back and take off your rose colored glasses.

        Murry has just vanished, Stutz is a klutz, Durley is soft when the going gets tough, no one as good as Mallett, or Weams or the skinhead looking 3-point shooter that SWOMO has.

        The Shox have nice players but nothing outstanding and it shows.
        There are definitely individual players out there better than anyone player WSU has, but overall, I still think we had the best top to bottom talent. They flat out underachieved.

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        • There are definitely individual players out there better than anyone player WSU has, but overall, I still think we had the best top to bottom talent. They flat out underachieved.
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          Let's hope he can hit a D-1 Curve ball!


          "God gave us the ability to reason, not religion" http://www.deism.com/


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          • Frustration, anger, disappointment, disgust, and really pissed off. And not 100% sure the sun will even rise tomorrow.

            We have some gloomy times ahead and what lies immediately ahead is very questionable.

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            • There's no top-100 high-schoolers on this team, folks.

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              • Originally posted by another shocker
                There's no top-100 high-schoolers on this team, folks.
                No kidding. Who was saying that was the case?

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                • Originally posted by another shocker
                  There's no top-100 high-schoolers on this team, folks.
                  Not even close. At best 300 or 350 on up.
                  In the fast lane

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                  • C'mon, 1972Shocker. Who still insists on saying this team has so much talent? That's who my comment was directed towards.

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                    • I honestly have no idea why Toure' has been playing. I can't come up with one reason. Is he an all-star in practice?

                      Starters go down by 9.
                      Bench gets it within 1 or 2.

                      Marshall puts the starters back in and we go back down 10. That was a genius move. Either go against the freaking line changes and make 1 sub at a time, or just leave the bench in the game. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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                      • Originally posted by another shocker
                        C'mon, 1972Shocker. Who still insists on saying this team has so much talent? That's who my comment was directed towards.
                        Saying they have the best talent in a weak MVC no way implies we are full of Top 100 recruits. But I agree with the general premise that our talent level is not as good as many Shockers fans, including myself perhaps, thought it was and I am not convinced we have the best talent in the league.

                        To quote Coach Parcells you are what your record says you are. We are a 24-8 team in a so-so mid-major league with no good wins, at least one very bad loss and an inability to win close games.

                        We do not belong in the NCAA Tournament. We have done nothng to earn that privilege. Whether or not anyone can get very excited about playing in the NIT remains to be seen but right now I'm not feelin' it.

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                        • Failure to defend the high pick and roll....nothing changed in regard to this all season.

                          HCGM is ultimately responsible for teaching how to defend it, or hiring an assistant to teach how to defend it, or for recruiting players who can defend it the way he teaches to defend it!

                          All in all a disappointing season full of underachievement in spite of the "gaudy record" against a who's who list of nobodys. I won't be purchasing NIT tickets as I didn't get good value for the tickets I purchased earlier with a horrible non-con schedule, and poor performances against a pitiful conference this year.

                          I'll still be cheering and hoping, but I expect nothing from this group, they haven't played at home as if they owe anything to themselves, teammates, coaching staff or us "lowly" fans.

                          I'll be back next year hoping for better, but expecting nothing. Go Shox!

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                          • As I said a few weeks ago, in so many words, our median is as a good team. Occasionally this year we have been very good, I don't think we've had a great game this year, and we have certainly had average to below average games.
                            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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                            • I tell you what though, I sure am jealous of ISU Blue's PG in Odom. He's just a freshman but made us look silly tonight. If we had a guy like that on our team, good gawd. He will be giving us fits for a while now.....hoooray.

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                              • Much as it stung to lose to InSU, I will be rooting for them to win it tomorrow. I think they and the dirty birds will be on the upswing for next year, while most of the rest stay the same or will be on downward trends.
                                Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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