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[SubGod22]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

[WSUShokker]

My only problem with BB is that the quality pool of teams appear to be shrinking....there was a stat that I posted....but I think there are more to the numbers than meet the eye...
I dont think its as damning as it looks at first glance...my opinion is the quality of the BB pool of teams is shrinking...meaning less to gain and less compelling mathups.

2006 19 berths
2007 17 berths
2008 15 berths
2009 12 berths
2010 11 berths

Regardless its my Damn birthday and I want a WIN!!!

[SHOXAAC]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

[WstateU]

My only problem with BB is that the quality pool of teams appear to be shrinking....there was a stat that I posted....but I think there are more to the numbers than meet the eye...
I dont think its as damning as it looks at first glance...my opinion is the quality of the BB pool of teams is shrinking...meaning less to gain and less compelling mathups.

2006 19 berths
2007 17 berths
2008 15 berths
2009 12 berths
2010 11 berths

Regardless its my Damn birthday and I want a WIN!!!

Is that all? :innocent:

[SubGod22]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

I'm not saying they're right, but I'm not going to dismiss them either.

Some coaches want to schedule games they can win, or most likely will win. Maybe Marshall is one of those and doesn't want to risk losing to some other quality teams. I don't know, but there are coaches like that out there. (Jank)

There are plenty of teams that could make sense. It sounds more like they just don't want to give up any home games, even if that means playing crap teams that do NOTHING for the team or the fans.

[ShockTalk]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

MVC, I don't remember the number, (except is was larger than I wanted to hear), but HCGM was asked about the large number of low RPI teams we were playing at home and his reply was that he liked that number of those games at home. I'm sure others heard the same thing and can fill in the blanks.

[SubGod22]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

MVC, I don't remember the number, (except is was larger than I wanted to hear), but HCGM was asked about the large number of low RPI teams we were playing at home and his reply was that he liked that number of those games at home. I'm sure others heard the same thing and can fill in the blanks.

I believe he wants something like 4 buy games a year and those are all against 200+ teams.

[SHOXAAC]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

MVC, I don't remember the number, (except is was larger than I wanted to hear), but HCGM was asked about the large number of low RPI teams we were playing at home and his reply was that he liked that number of those games at home. I'm sure others heard the same thing and can fill in the blanks.

It seems to me some of the loudest talk when HCGM came here four years ago was that he wanted to coach in a conference that had a chance at multiple bids (little did he know). I guess my assumption is that coach should understand, and go to great lengths, to build an at-large scheduling resume which would turn heads as though Heidi Klum just walked in the room...just sayin!

[WstateU]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

MVC, I don't remember the number, (except is was larger than I wanted to hear), but HCGM was asked about the large number of low RPI teams we were playing at home and his reply was that he liked that number of those games at home. I'm sure others heard the same thing and can fill in the blanks.

It seems to me some of the loudest talk when HCGM came here four years ago was that he wanted to coach in a conference that had a chance at multiple bids (little did he know). I guess my assumption is that coach should understand, and go to great lengths, to build an at-large scheduling resume which would turn heads as though Heidi Klum just walked in the room...just sayin!

Who is this "Heidi Klum" you speak of? :D

[SHOXAAC]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

MVC, I don't remember the number, (except is was larger than I wanted to hear), but HCGM was asked about the large number of low RPI teams we were playing at home and his reply was that he liked that number of those games at home. I'm sure others heard the same thing and can fill in the blanks.

It seems to me some of the loudest talk when HCGM came here four years ago was that he wanted to coach in a conference that had a chance at multiple bids (little did he know). I guess my assumption is that coach should understand, and go to great lengths, to build an at-large scheduling resume which would turn heads as though Heidi Klum just walked in the room...just sayin!

Who is this "Heidi Klum" you speak of? :D

She's been stalking me lately. I'm trying to let her down easy (alarm clock going off in the background). Oh, sorry about that. My alarm clock just went off. I had a dream about Heidi Klum. Never mind about the details. :yahoo:

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

[ShockTalk]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

MVC, I don't remember the number, (except is was larger than I wanted to hear), but HCGM was asked about the large number of low RPI teams we were playing at home and his reply was that he liked that number of those games at home. I'm sure others heard the same thing and can fill in the blanks.

It seems to me some of the loudest talk when HCGM came here four years ago was that he wanted to coach in a conference that had a chance at multiple bids (little did he know). I guess my assumption is that coach should understand, and go to great lengths, to build an at-large scheduling resume which would turn heads as though Heidi Klum just walked in the room...just sayin!

I understand and agree, MVC. It is a head scratcher. However, as tough as it is to get teams to play here, it is no tougher than other quality mid major programs (not including Gonzaga or the mid major flavor of the year). I reviewed 8-10 of these programs earlier in the season and found that WSU had a higher % of home games in the OOC than any of them and most had several H/Hs with other quality mid majors and lower half Big Six schools.

[XManCometh]

everyone complains about the schedule not being tough enough and now we have a quality opponent right in front of us and it's like "Oh no, what if we lose?".

Bottom line, if we're an at-large candidate, prove it.

DING...DING...DING...DING........... :good:

Also, let's ask our selves this...without the BB WSU would have one more non-con game to schedule. Would HCGM have been able to schedule a 60 RPI type opponent, not only for this year, but the same quality opponent in another two years? The BB represents a quality opponent for two non-con games without dialing a phone. I'm not in Fev's camp very often, but someone explain how this is counter productive.

First, not without a return game. Second, would he have wanted to. Were some GMU fans correct in saying that their coach wanted a H/H series, but WSU did not?

I would think a return game with another quality mid-major is a given. Do you really think the coach at Wichita State University, in a mediocre conference, would not want a H/H with another like-kind mid-major program? I know we have had a warm and fuzzy relationship with GMU fans, but are we really going to fall for the subject of a H/H with them, at the face value the GMU fans made it seem, and believe HCGM said "no thanks?" My BS meter just went through the roof on that one. I have heard many second-hand stories in my time, to find out later the facts got in the way of the original story.

Considering we have yet to schedule anybody like them I'm not going to dismiss their account as you do. It's very possible. I went thru and found about 50 or so schools that would be good RPI H/H games earlier this year and I highly doubt we couldn't get at least 1 of them to agree to it.

I am trying to wrap my brain around a scenerio that would almost support this "HCGM is turning down good scheduliing opportunities." On one hand I struggle with the idea that it can be this difficult to schedule GMU, ODU, New Mexico State, St. Mary's, etc...But on the other hand give me one good solid common sense reason why he would avoid these H/H discussions with these other fine institutions?

MVC, I don't remember the number, (except is was larger than I wanted to hear), but HCGM was asked about the large number of low RPI teams we were playing at home and his reply was that he liked that number of those games at home. I'm sure others heard the same thing and can fill in the blanks.

I believe he wants something like 4 buy games a year and those are all against 200+ teams.

Where does he think he's coaching at? Kansas? Our conference schedule isn't strong enough year after year to be able to schedule 4 easy wins. And here I was wondering why we play teams like Nicholls State every year. I guess I found my answer.

[electricmayhem]

I've been away from my cpu -- here's all I can say.

I think the whole thing is set up to minimize the number of mids at the dance. The WSU loss obviously hurts, so we can now say that WSU would have rather not played that game than lost. It works that way for half the teams...

[wu_shizzle]

The WSU loss obviously hurts, so we can now say that WSU would have rather not played that game than lost. It works that way for half the teams...

Champions win these games.