Coaches on the road

[Rosewood]

I was surprised that Paul's article didn't have a thread or maybe I'm surprised I can't read and there is one. If so, sue me.

http://blogs.kansas.com/shockwaves/2011/02/14/coaches-on-the-road/

Of course HCGM has wins at every location now so the article is already out of date. But there is one line in there that really puts the last few years in perspective.

Scott Thompson (1992-96)

Win – UNI, Indiana State

No win – Creighton, SIU, Bradley, Illinois State, Drake Missouri State, Evansville, Tulsa

So my question to you old timers out there, as I was still in grade school for the Scott Thompson era, how did you manage to survive that?

[shocker22]

sad thing is he was supposed to be the savior after cohen ran us into the ground.

[wu_shizzle]

Randy Smithson (1996-2000)

Win – SIU, Bradley, Drake, UNI, Evansville, Indiana State

No wins – Creighton, Illinois State, Missouri State

Scott Thompson (1992-96)

Win – UNI, Indiana State

No win – Creighton, SIU, Bradley, Illinois State, Drake Missouri State, Evansville, Tulsa

Mike Cohen (1989-92)
Win – Illinois State, Drake, Indiana State, Tulsa

No win – Creighton, SIU, Bradley, UNI, Missouri State

For those of you who have only followed WSU for the last 20 years, study this list.

Do not let the decade of the 90's define how you view basketball at Wichita State University.

Miller, Smithson, Fogler, Turgeon and Marshall are the norm not the exception.

[kcshocker11]

Memories of this! :posterwu: 8)

[WSUwatcher]

Miller

What struck me was not only that Fogler (in three seasons!) and Smithson were the only ones to do it until Marshall joined them tonight, but also that Ralph Miller wasn't on the list in his fairly long tenure -- he couldn't beat Bradley in Peoria.

Of course, winning in Peoria these days is hardly what it used to be. But it still speaks well of the guys who have accomplished the feat. And it would really say something for Marshall if he could get a complete sweep in one season. Has anyone in the Valley other than Bill Hodges -- excuse me, I mean Larry Bird -- ever done that?

[shockball]

Re: Miller

And it would really say something for Marshall if he could get a complete sweep in one season. Has anyone in the Valley other than Bill Hodges -- excuse me, I mean Larry Bird -- ever done that?

When Jim Les played for Bradley they had a team that went 18-0 in conference.

[Rosewood]

Re: Miller

What struck me was not only that Fogler (in three seasons!) and Smithson were the only ones to do it until Marshall joined them tonight, but also that Ralph Miller wasn't on the list in his fairly long tenure -- he couldn't beat Bradley in Peoria.

Of course, winning in Peoria these days is hardly what it used to be. But it still speaks well of the guys who have accomplished the feat. And it would really say something for Marshall if he could get a complete sweep in one season. Has anyone in the Valley other than Bill Hodges -- excuse me, I mean Larry Bird -- ever done that?

WSU’s road numbers – 8-0 in the MVC. WSU’s 1982-83 team went 8-1, losing at Illinois State, on its way to a 17-1 MVC record. Bradley is the last MVC team go unbeaten in road games – 8-0 in 1985-86. No team has won nine MVC road games since Oklahoma went 10-0 in 1927-28. Eight MVC road wins are relatively common – 15 teams, with UNI most recent in 2009 – have done it.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Re: Coaches on the road

I was surprised that Paul's article didn't have a thread or maybe I'm surprised I can't read and there is one. If so, sue me.

http://blogs.kansas.com/shockwaves/2011/02/14/coaches-on-the-road/

Of course HCGM has wins at every location now so the article is already out of date. But there is one line in there that really puts the last few years in perspective.

Scott Thompson (1992-96)

Win – UNI, Indiana State

No win – Creighton, SIU, Bradley, Illinois State, Drake Missouri State, Evansville, Tulsa

So my question to you old timers out there, as I was still in grade school for the Scott Thompson era, how did you manage to survive that?

We survived because Coach Thompson recruited one of WSU's all time best players and certainly one of WSU's all time fan favorite players.

[ABC]

Yes, Jason Perez.

The Thomspon disaster is still a mystery to me.

He recruited good players: Marvin what's-his-name, Jamie Arnold, Perez etc.

He had success is a "big" conference, the Southwest.

The MVC at that time was not a juggernaut.

Why did he crash so hard?

[wusphlash]

Yes, Jason Perez.

The Thomspon disaster is still a mystery to me.

He recruited good players: Marvin what's-his-name, Jamie Arnold, Perez etc.

He had success is a "big" conference, the Southwest.

The MVC at that time was not a juggernaut.

Why did he crash so hard?

I agree with you totally. I will never understand why it didn't work out with Scott T. I really thought it was a good hire at the time.

[pogo]

At the time it looked like a great hire. Has anyone heard how he is doing health wise lately?

[Dan]

Re: Coaches on the road

So my question to you old timers out there, as I was still in grade school for the Scott Thompson era, how did you manage to survive that?

That's easy, alcohol. And lots of it.

[ShockBand]

Last I knew he was at Cornell in the athletic department front office, but that was 6 or 7 years ago. I met him personally, great guy, thought he was a home run hire. Obviously not.

[Aargh]

What I recall from Thompson's time here, either he didn't have the right people for his offense or he had the wrong offense.

I remember a lot of successful screens to open up a PF from 17' or more. The screens to open up the perimeter players weren't complex enough to work in a guard-oriented league.

I remember thinking that if Thompson could just go recruit some guys who were 6'7"+ and could shoot from 3, he'd have a great offensive scheme. I think the guard-oriented Valley gave his style fits and he never could adjust his offense to what was needed in this league.

[Ricardo del Rio]

"On July 28, 2000, former Cornell Head Basketball Coach, Scott Thompson, stepped down from his position due to his ongoing battle with colon cancer. Thomspon has since been honored by the American Cancer Society for his ongoing leadership in the battle against cancer."