The season conference title is a huge mountain to climb

[kcshocker11]

It is what it is! And it begins tomorrow night! :goshocks: 8)

[Shocktoberfest]

It's all about tomorrow night. Postseason talk of the NCAA tournament ends if we lose. At that point it is certainly STL or bust. Unless of course we run VCU UNI and MSU. Ha! Who knows. But a first place mvc finish is the only way we sniff an at large. Which is why tomorrow is huge.

[SB Shock]

It's all about tomorrow night. Postseason talk of the NCAA tournament ends if we lose.

No it doesn't. WSU margin of error is two losses before they shut that door.

Right now (for RPI purposes) WSU is 17-4 (RPI 48). They are projected to finish with 2 more losses. That would give WSU a 23-6 record and RPI of 36. If that occurs WSU will still be in the discussion.

[Snapshot9]

Last year, we were 25-10 (why so many less games this year?). Does anyone recall our record against RPI'S 1-50, 51-100 last year? We have a tough schedule to finish out, BUT

1) I think we learned from our losses to MSU and UNI, and it has toughened up the team.
2) We are playing well on the road this year, and 4 out of our 7 conference games are on the road, especially ISUbl, UNI, and MSU.
3) New hope has to be flowing throughout the team after UNI beat MSU.
4) Our depth should help us towards the end of the season.

We are now poised to finish out the season well, as long as we don't stumble.

[AndShock]

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2010/schedule/Wichita%20State

1-50 : 1-4
51-100 : 8-2
101-200 : 7-3
201+ : 8-1

[WuDrWu]

Last year, we were 25-10 (why so many less games this year?).

It's only 1 game fewer. We've played 22 so far, 7 conference and bb game remain...that's 30. Last year we played 4 post season games, that would put us at 34. The Sprint tourney last year allowed a total of 4 games instead of the 3 in Hawaii this year.

[_kai_]

But a first place mvc finish is the only way we sniff an at large. Which is why tomorrow is huge.

A first place MVC finish would equal an automatic bid...

[shocker3]

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2010/schedule/Wichita%20State

1-50 : 1-4
51-100 : 8-2
101-200 : 7-3
201+ : 8-1

Those are actually some pretty good numbers. Teams that are 9-6 in the top 100 (.600 with 9 wins) are usually dancing.

Only one bad loss too. Finished second in the 7th best conference.
I think we were screwed.

[Aargh]

http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2010/schedule/Wichita%20State

1-50 : 1-4
51-100 : 8-2
101-200 : 7-3
201+ : 8-1

Those are actually some pretty good numbers. Teams that are 9-6 in the top 100 (.600 with 9 wins) are usually dancing.

Only one bad loss too. Finished second in the 7th best conference.
I think we were screwed.

disagree.

In our last 10 games lst year, we had losses to Drake and Evansville. If we were screwed, it was self-inflicted.

[RoyalShock]

Those four losses to RPI 100+ hurt us, as well as how we finished down the stretch. But this year my understanding is that how you do in your last 10 games isn't supposed to be much of a consideration like it has been in the past. I read that somewhere last fall, but can't recall where.

I think if we can beat VCU, win at either UNI or MSU, and avoid any other losses outside the championship game in the Loo, we're in as at least an 11-seed. Throw in another loss and we're squarely on the bubble.

Of course, how other teams do may help or hurt us in those scenarios. I'm thinking we should just run the table!

[Rosewood]

UNI and Mo State will lose one more game AT LEAST outside of the games where we will beat them.

I get that last February was murder for the shox and I'm not penciling in anything but I'm really not worried.

Word to your mother

[Kung Wu]

UNI and Mo State will lose one more game AT LEAST outside of the games where we will beat them.

I get that last February was murder for the shox and I'm not penciling in anything but I'm really not worried.

Word to your mother

Haha, props on 50% of it so far!

[shocker3]

Those four losses to RPI 100+ hurt us, as well as how we finished down the stretch. But this year my understanding is that how you do in your last 10 games isn't supposed to be much of a consideration like it has been in the past. I read that somewhere last fall, but can't recall where.

I think if we can beat VCU, win at either UNI or MSU, and avoid any other losses outside the championship game in the Loo, we're in as at least an 11-seed. Throw in another loss and we're squarely on the bubble.

Of course, how other teams do may help or hurt us in those scenarios. I'm thinking we should just run the table!

Royal- I tend to agree with you. That is a pretty good assessment of where we are at.