Umpire Costs Detroit Pitcher a Perfect Game

[1972Shocker]

As a rule, 1st basemen rarely go that far to field the baseball. That was the second baseman's ball to charge. However it would have been a close play either way.

I think you are right about being a close play either way. However, there is a lot more commotion and moving parts on plays where the pitcher is covering 1st base on the move, perhaps increasing the probability of a poor call.

[ShockRef]

SB Shock,
I get sick and tired of you making entirely too much sense in your posts. It's downright nauseating to read post after post making sense, sense and more sense.

If you don't cease and desist, some posters on here might actually take a cue from your observations and follow suit.

Then what the hell will we have?

On the flip side, the fact that some retards actually made death threats against Joyce and his family illustrate how sick and demented our society has become.

It's a fricking game morons.

Liberals will probably defend their behavior, claiming it's their right to free speech. 8)

[engrshock]

Shockref and SBShock don't get it. Baseball is all about history. This call was a bad call. It was not a bang bang play. Yes it has no bearing on a 162 game season but if you throw a perfect game it is a big deal. being 1 of 21 in the entire history of baseball is a rare thing if you give a hoot about baseball history. Much of baseballs draw is because of history not just who wins the most games in a 162 game season. If you throw a 1 hitter it is no big deal and most likely another win. Why always defend the ump or ref if the call was clearly a bad one? The umpire did not even do that.

I do agree that the umpire should not be getting threats from the public. If he is then that is a crime and punishable. Also not sure why you bring politics into a discussion like this. Are the liberals the ones making the threats?

[ShockerFever]

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It was painful to watch a guy blow a call, that important, that badly.

Okay, so the umpire blinked and blew the call and the guy didn't get his no-no perfect game. That is too bad, but regardless his team won and didn't cost them the game. It not like if you throw a perfect game you get 2 wins.

With the uproard around this you would think this was game 6 of the 1985 World Series.

Considering there have only been 20 perfect games in over 100 years of history, it is pretty important.

In what way is it important? Name in the record book. Who cares. Blowing a call in the Game 6 of the world series is important in baseball. Blowing a call in a game that didn't change the result is in a 162 game season is unimportant.

If MLB feels that have to something here, then they need to do something about 1985 which was much more "Important".

I would love to see you type the same thing if you were Gallaraga.

[shocker3]

Shockref and SBShock don't get it. Baseball is all about history. This call was a bad call. It was not a bang bang play. Yes it has no bearing on a 162 game season but if you throw a perfect game it is a big deal. being 1 of 21 in the entire history of baseball is a rare thing if you give a hoot about baseball history. Much of baseballs draw is because of history not just who wins the most games in a 162 game season. If you throw a 1 hitter it is no big deal and most likely another win. Why always defend the ump or ref if the call was clearly a bad one? The umpire did not even do that.

I do agree that the umpire should not be getting threats from the public. If he is then that is a crime and punishable. Also not sure why you bring politics into a discussion like this. Are the liberals the ones making the threats?

To me this is the kind of situation where using the appeal to the Commissioner rule makes sense.

If the Commissioner were to overrule the call it wouldn't affect the game or season one iota but it would correct an injustice to a particular pitcher who should have made history last night.

It is not like this would be the first time in history that a Commissioner did overrule a call on the field. I don't know how many times it has happened but it has.

The only one I can remember off the top of my head was the famous PINE TAR ruling affecting George Brett and the KC Royals. George had hit a home run against the NY Yankees, the umpire on the field instead called him out and took away the home run because he thought George had used too much pine tar on the bat.

The Royals appealed the call to the Commissioner, the Commissioner over ruled the umpires and about a month later, the Royals and Yankees replayed the last 4 outs of the game. And the Royals ended up winning this time.

[WstateU]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Armando-Galarraga-receives-a-Corvette-consolatio?urn=mlb,245508

[Maggie]

Nobody's Perfect, but They Were Good - A blown call occasions a lesson in civility and honesty

What was sweet and surprising was that all the principals in the story comported themselves as fully formed adults, with patience, grace and dignity. And in doing so, Galarraga and Joyce showed kids How to Do It.

A lot of adults don't teach kids this now, because the adults themselves don't know how to do it. There's a mentoring gap, an instruction gap in our country. We don't put forward a template because we don't know the template. So everyone imitates TV, where victors dance in the end zone, where winners shoot their arms in the air and distort their face and yell "Whoooaahhh," and where victims of an injustice scream, cry, say bitter things, and beat the ground with their fists. Everyone has come to believe this is authentic. It is authentically babyish. Everyone thinks it's honest. It's honestly undignified, self-indulgent, weak and embarrassing.

Galarraga and Joyce couldn't have known it when they went to work Wednesday, but they were going to show children in an unforgettable way that a victim of injustice can react with compassion, and a person who makes a mistake can admit and declare it. Joyce especially was a relief, not spinning or digging in his heels. I wish he hadn't sworn. Nobody's perfect.

[Aargh]

This game is going to be in every "unofficial" record book and may, in time, become the best-known perfect game ever pitched.

Pitching a 1-hit, 28-batter perfect game is the type of novelty that baseball historians love.

[WuDrWu]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Armando-Galarraga-receives-a-Corvette-consolatio?urn=mlb,245508

So the tax payers bought this guy a car?

A guy making 435k this year....he isn't a citizen, is given a $70,000+ car by a company owned by the tax payers of the United States......a company that almost failed and may still fail.......




God Bless America.

[WstateU]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Armando-Galarraga-receives-a-Corvette-consolatio?urn=mlb,245508

So the tax payers bought this guy a car?

A guy making 435k this year....he isn't a citizen, is given a $70,000+ car by a company owned by the tax payers of the United States......a company that almost failed and may still fail.......




God Bless America.

Yeppers, what a country! :wacko:

[BenWSU]

If MLB goes to instant replay in the future, will college baseball consider it ???

[WuDrWu]

I haven't heard this discussed, but couldn't the official scorer call it an error if he wanted and at least give the kid a no hitter?

[ShockTalk]

I haven't heard this discussed, but couldn't the official scorer call it an error if he wanted and at least give the kid a no hitter?

I agree, Doc. That's what I posted early in this thread.

"I'm a little surprised that the official scorer, as they can make changes to the scorebook, didn't at least give a phantom error. After all, he could say, "the ball clearly beat the runner, was a good throw, so the pitcher must not have gotten his foot down in time - error on the pitcher - no perfect game, but a no hitter none the less."

As for what GM did:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/06/04/blown-call-leads-to-free-corvette-for-near-perfect-tigers-pitche/

"GM has been a big sponsor for the Detroit Tigers for years, which makes sense considering the fact that the company's Renaissance Center headquarters is clearly visible beyond the center field fence. The General has also paid to advertise on the Tiger's center field fountain. GM couldn't afford to sponsor the fountain in 2009 due to bankruptcy proceedings, so team owner Mike Ilitch placed all three Detroit automakers on the fountain in a show of support for the Detroit automakers.

We're sure the Corvette isn't quite as nice as having a perfect game on the resume, but it's not a bad consolation prize, either. GM gets something from this situation as well, as the Corvette giveaway will probably make its way to many local news outlets, along with some time on ESPN. That kind of advertising probably costs a bit more than $58,580."

[1979Shocker]

I haven't heard this discussed, but couldn't the official scorer call it an error if he wanted and at least give the kid a no hitter?

The only error that should have been called would be on the umpire for making the bad call.

[shox1989]

I haven't heard this discussed, but couldn't the official scorer call it an error if he wanted and at least give the kid a no hitter?

The only error that should have been called would be on the umpire for making the bad call.

I agree. :)