Shockers vs Salukis... Game III

[shocker3]

Indiana St. is playing very well right now. They just took 2 out of 3 games on the road at the Citadel. The Citadel is #20 in rpi.

They also have a former 5 year shocker on their coaching staff (Max Hutson), so they should be very well prepared for facing WSU.

We should not underestimate them.
:wsu_posters:

[SB Shock]

That wasn't the situation and whatever strategy gene has was defective. The pitcher had hit two batters trying to pitch aggressive and to pitch inside.

2 walks = 2 HBP not much difference in the 2 scenarios. both say the pitcher has some control issues.

yep, gene's strategy was flawed. should have put the bats on their shoulders until the second strike was thrown.

Seems like gene took it one step further and told them to take everything since 3 and 4 just stood there.

Evidently you were not at the game were you? SIU pitchers were not having any problem and pretty much had their way with wsu hitters and exposed several of them. If anybody throw jones another fastball this year they are stupid.

btw their bullpen was all throwing in the mid to upper 90s topping out at 98.

[lostshocker]

That wasn't the situation and whatever strategy gene has was defective. The pitcher had hit two batters trying to pitch aggressive and to pitch inside.

2 walks = 2 HBP not much difference in the 2 scenarios. both say the pitcher has some control issues.

yep, gene's strategy was flawed. should have put the bats on their shoulders until the second strike was thrown.

Seems like gene took it one step further and told them to take everything since 3 and 4 just stood there.

Evidently you were not at the game were you? SIU pitchers were not having any problem and pretty much had their way with wsu hitters and exposed several of them. If anybody throw jones another fastball this year they are stupid.

btw their bullpen was all throwing in the mid to upper 90s topping out at 98.

nope, wasnt even within 250 miles of 21st street. but if the pitcher has just hit 2 batters in a row you wont find many coaches telling their hitters to take until he throws you a strike, maybe one or two looking for a job. and you are the one who implied that the pitcher hit the previous 2 batters.

[SB Shock]

That wasn't the situation and whatever strategy gene has was defective. The pitcher had hit two batters trying to pitch aggressive and to pitch inside.

2 walks = 2 HBP not much difference in the 2 scenarios. both say the pitcher has some control issues.

yep, gene's strategy was flawed. should have put the bats on their shoulders until the second strike was thrown.

Seems like gene took it one step further and told them to take everything since 3 and 4 just stood there.

Evidently you were not at the game were you? SIU pitchers were not having any problem and pretty much had their way with wsu hitters and exposed several of them. If anybody throw jones another fastball this year they are stupid.

btw their bullpen was all throwing in the mid to upper 90s topping out at 98.

nope, wasnt even within 250 miles of 21st street. but if the pitcher has just hit 2 batters in a row you wont find many coaches telling their hitters to take until he throws you a strike, maybe one or two looking for a job. and you are the one who implied that the pitcher hit the previous 2 batters.

I implied nothing, I told you he hit two batters. He hit Baez because evidently there was bad blood (thus the warning each team got and the dugouts emptying), then hit Grimes because he was standing on plate as usual because he wants his name in Shocker record books as hit by more pitches.

So go and defend Gene all you want, but Sunday was a piss poor coaching job. Everybody that was in the ball park knows it.

[JaminShock]

That wasn't the situation and whatever strategy gene has was defective. The pitcher had hit two batters trying to pitch aggressive and to pitch inside.

2 walks = 2 HBP not much difference in the 2 scenarios. both say the pitcher has some control issues.

yep, gene's strategy was flawed. should have put the bats on their shoulders until the second strike was thrown.

Seems like gene took it one step further and told them to take everything since 3 and 4 just stood there.

Evidently you were not at the game were you? SIU pitchers were not having any problem and pretty much had their way with wsu hitters and exposed several of them. If anybody throw jones another fastball this year they are stupid.

btw their bullpen was all throwing in the mid to upper 90s topping out at 98.

nope, wasnt even within 250 miles of 21st street. but if the pitcher has just hit 2 batters in a row you wont find many coaches telling their hitters to take until he throws you a strike, maybe one or two looking for a job. and you are the one who implied that the pitcher hit the previous 2 batters.

I implied nothing, I told you he hit two batters. He hit Baez because evidently there was bad blood (thus the warning each team got and the dugouts emptying), then hit Grimes because he was standing on plate as usual because he wants his name in Shocker record books as hit by more pitches.
So go and defend Gene all you want, but Sunday was a piss poor coaching job. Everybody that was in the ball park knows it.

I'm confused- is this a bad thing? You make it sound like he's doing something wrong and selfish by getting hit- but he's getting on base, which is the important thing.

[shoxlax]

Did anybody hear Krusty on the coaches show last night? I missed it. If it was normal standard fare, then he said the coaches did everything right and the players didn't make the adjustments they told them too. Am I close?

[SB Shock]

That wasn't the situation and whatever strategy gene has was defective. The pitcher had hit two batters trying to pitch aggressive and to pitch inside.

2 walks = 2 HBP not much difference in the 2 scenarios. both say the pitcher has some control issues.

yep, gene's strategy was flawed. should have put the bats on their shoulders until the second strike was thrown.

Seems like gene took it one step further and told them to take everything since 3 and 4 just stood there.

Evidently you were not at the game were you? SIU pitchers were not having any problem and pretty much had their way with wsu hitters and exposed several of them. If anybody throw jones another fastball this year they are stupid.

btw their bullpen was all throwing in the mid to upper 90s topping out at 98.

nope, wasnt even within 250 miles of 21st street. but if the pitcher has just hit 2 batters in a row you wont find many coaches telling their hitters to take until he throws you a strike, maybe one or two looking for a job. and you are the one who implied that the pitcher hit the previous 2 batters.

I implied nothing, I told you he hit two batters. He hit Baez because evidently there was bad blood (thus the warning each team got and the dugouts emptying), then hit Grimes because he was standing on plate as usual because he wants his name in Shocker record books as hit by more pitches.
So go and defend Gene all you want, but Sunday was a piss poor coaching job. Everybody that was in the ball park knows it.

I'm confused- is this a bad thing? You make it sound like he's doing something wrong and selfish by getting hit- but he's getting on base, which is the important thing.

I have nothing against somebody who take one for the team, but when a player starts to openly talking about on the radio how he want to get in Shocker record books and then you see he's hitting 0.255 with a 0.362 SLG. Then you look at he's striking out every 1 of 4 ab's and you have to think is his quest for the record book and whether his approach at hitting might actually hurting the team more than it's helping?

Grimes last year had a solid year for Freshman batting 0.294, OBP 0.399 and Slugging 0.467 with 5 HR and 0.941 fielding. But he's taken a real step back this year (0.255/0.454/0.362, 2 HR and 0.912 fielding).

[KC Shox]

That wasn't the situation and whatever strategy gene has was defective. The pitcher had hit two batters trying to pitch aggressive and to pitch inside.

2 walks = 2 HBP not much difference in the 2 scenarios. both say the pitcher has some control issues.

yep, gene's strategy was flawed. should have put the bats on their shoulders until the second strike was thrown.

Seems like gene took it one step further and told them to take everything since 3 and 4 just stood there.

Evidently you were not at the game were you? SIU pitchers were not having any problem and pretty much had their way with wsu hitters and exposed several of them. If anybody throw jones another fastball this year they are stupid.

btw their bullpen was all throwing in the mid to upper 90s topping out at 98.

nope, wasnt even within 250 miles of 21st street. but if the pitcher has just hit 2 batters in a row you wont find many coaches telling their hitters to take until he throws you a strike, maybe one or two looking for a job. and you are the one who implied that the pitcher hit the previous 2 batters.

I implied nothing, I told you he hit two batters. He hit Baez because evidently there was bad blood (thus the warning each team got and the dugouts emptying), then hit Grimes because he was standing on plate as usual because he wants his name in Shocker record books as hit by more pitches.
So go and defend Gene all you want, but Sunday was a piss poor coaching job. Everybody that was in the ball park knows it.

I'm confused- is this a bad thing? You make it sound like he's doing something wrong and selfish by getting hit- but he's getting on base, which is the important thing.

I have nothing against somebody who take one for the team, but when a player starts to openly talking about on the radio how he want to get in Shocker record books and then you see he's hitting 0.255 with a 0.362 SLG. Then you look at he's striking out every 1 of 4 ab's and you have to think is his quest for the record book and whether his approach at hitting might actually hurting the team more than it's helping?

Grimes last year had a solid year for Freshman batting 0.294, OBP 0.399 and Slugging 0.467 with 5 HR and 0.941 fielding. But he's taken a real step back this year (0.255/0.454/0.362, 2 HR and 0.912 fielding).

Sophomore slump. :D

[Ta town]

That wasn't the situation and whatever strategy gene has was defective. The pitcher had hit two batters trying to pitch aggressive and to pitch inside.

2 walks = 2 HBP not much difference in the 2 scenarios. both say the pitcher has some control issues.

yep, gene's strategy was flawed. should have put the bats on their shoulders until the second strike was thrown.

Seems like gene took it one step further and told them to take everything since 3 and 4 just stood there.

Evidently you were not at the game were you? SIU pitchers were not having any problem and pretty much had their way with wsu hitters and exposed several of them. If anybody throw jones another fastball this year they are stupid.

btw their bullpen was all throwing in the mid to upper 90s topping out at 98.

nope, wasnt even within 250 miles of 21st street. but if the pitcher has just hit 2 batters in a row you wont find many coaches telling their hitters to take until he throws you a strike, maybe one or two looking for a job. and you are the one who implied that the pitcher hit the previous 2 batters.

I implied nothing, I told you he hit two batters. He hit Baez because evidently there was bad blood (thus the warning each team got and the dugouts emptying), then hit Grimes because he was standing on plate as usual because he wants his name in Shocker record books as hit by more pitches.
So go and defend Gene all you want, but Sunday was a piss poor coaching job. Everybody that was in the ball park knows it.

I'm confused- is this a bad thing? You make it sound like he's doing something wrong and selfish by getting hit- but he's getting on base, which is the important thing.

I have nothing against somebody who take one for the team, but when a player starts to openly talking about on the radio how he want to get in Shocker record books and then you see he's hitting 0.255 with a 0.362 SLG. Then you look at he's striking out every 1 of 4 ab's and you have to think is his quest for the record book and whether his approach at hitting might actually hurting the team more than it's helping?

Grimes last year had a solid year for Freshman batting 0.294, OBP 0.399 and Slugging 0.467 with 5 HR and 0.941 fielding. But he's taken a real step back this year (0.255/0.454/0.362, 2 HR and 0.912 fielding).

.454 on base compared to .399, 30 runs this year compared to 31 last year. 50 strike outs in 180 at bats last year, 22 in 94. So he is on pace to score more runs and strike out less per at bat this year. His fielding is down but really he has been pretty solid the last few weeks. I certainly don't cringe when the ball is hit in his direction.

You act as though he goes up there and can't do anything if he doesn't get hit by a pitch. He laced a couple of very hard hit singles over the weekend and had a few more that were outs.

He will come across a night or two where he gets 3-4 hits. I like the fact that he will let a ball hit him.

If you get hit by the ball your end up on first 100% of the time. If you hit the ball then that percentage drops greatly. If I thought it was effecting his batting I would agree with you. I don't though, he stands on top of the plate and has quick enough hands to get them through the zone. I don't think it's the inside stuff thats causing his strikeouts.

[SB Shock]

That wasn't the situation and whatever strategy gene has was defective. The pitcher had hit two batters trying to pitch aggressive and to pitch inside.

2 walks = 2 HBP not much difference in the 2 scenarios. both say the pitcher has some control issues.

yep, gene's strategy was flawed. should have put the bats on their shoulders until the second strike was thrown.

Seems like gene took it one step further and told them to take everything since 3 and 4 just stood there.

Evidently you were not at the game were you? SIU pitchers were not having any problem and pretty much had their way with wsu hitters and exposed several of them. If anybody throw jones another fastball this year they are stupid.

btw their bullpen was all throwing in the mid to upper 90s topping out at 98.

nope, wasnt even within 250 miles of 21st street. but if the pitcher has just hit 2 batters in a row you wont find many coaches telling their hitters to take until he throws you a strike, maybe one or two looking for a job. and you are the one who implied that the pitcher hit the previous 2 batters.

I implied nothing, I told you he hit two batters. He hit Baez because evidently there was bad blood (thus the warning each team got and the dugouts emptying), then hit Grimes because he was standing on plate as usual because he wants his name in Shocker record books as hit by more pitches.
So go and defend Gene all you want, but Sunday was a piss poor coaching job. Everybody that was in the ball park knows it.

I'm confused- is this a bad thing? You make it sound like he's doing something wrong and selfish by getting hit- but he's getting on base, which is the important thing.

I have nothing against somebody who take one for the team, but when a player starts to openly talking about on the radio how he want to get in Shocker record books and then you see he's hitting 0.255 with a 0.362 SLG. Then you look at he's striking out every 1 of 4 ab's and you have to think is his quest for the record book and whether his approach at hitting might actually hurting the team more than it's helping?

Grimes last year had a solid year for Freshman batting 0.294, OBP 0.399 and Slugging 0.467 with 5 HR and 0.941 fielding. But he's taken a real step back this year (0.255/0.454/0.362, 2 HR and 0.912 fielding).

.454 on base compared to .399, 30 runs this year compared to 31 last year. 50 strike outs in 180 at bats last year, 22 in 94. So he is on pace to score more runs and strike out less per at bat this year. His fielding is down but really he has been pretty solid the last few weeks. I certainly don't cringe when the ball is hit in his direction.

You act as though he goes up there and can't do anything if he doesn't get hit by a pitch. He laced a couple of very hard hit singles over the weekend and had a few more that were outs.

He will come across a night or two where he gets 3-4 hits. I like the fact that he will let a ball hit him.

If you get hit by the ball your end up on first 100% of the time. If you hit the ball then that percentage drops greatly. If I thought it was effecting his batting I would agree with you. I don't though, he stands on top of the plate and has quick enough hands to get them through the zone. I don't think it's the inside stuff thats causing his strikeouts.

Spin it however you want but He's batting 0.250 in College Baseball with a 0.354 slugging pct. But that is not getting the job done.

[lostshocker]

you pay attention to the wrong stats. but oh well.

[SB Shock]

you pay attention to the wrong stats. but oh well.

Please enlighten us. I would love to see how you spin this.

[Ta town]

you pay attention to the wrong stats. but oh well.

Please enlighten us. I would love to see how you spin this.

Which is better getting on base 4 out of 10 times or 4.5 out of 10 times?

Go ahead and enlighten us. I would love to see how you spin this.

[SB Shock]

you pay attention to the wrong stats. but oh well.

Please enlighten us. I would love to see how you spin this.

Which is better getting on base 4 out of 10 times or 4.5 out of 10 times?

Go ahead and enlighten us. I would love to see how you spin this.

frankly I would rather have somebody on my team that can actually HIT THE BALL.

[JaminShock]

Through the Oral Roberts series, Grimes was 11-53. Since then, he's 13-43, for a .302 AVG. Remember, he was experimenting with switch-hitting early on, which contributed to his struggles.

Your job when at the plate is to not make an out. And with a .455 OBP, he's the best guy on the team at not making an out.