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    Omaha, Neb. — Before they dropped a piano on its head, the Northern Iowa baseball team opened the season with 23 straight road games. Ohio State played more contests in the state of Florida this spring (25) than it did in the state of Ohio (23).

    If you really want to get serious, there are two ways to preserve big-time college baseball in the Midwest. The first is for every Division I school north of Branson and east of Salt Lake to dome their stadiums. Good luck with that.

    "People aren't too thrilled to sit out in cold weather in a not-very-nice ballpark," offered Arkansas coach Dave Van Horn, who has piloted two different schools from two different regions — Nebraska and the Razorbacks — to the College World Series. "They want to see some things that draw them to the park. Some beauty in it."

    You could use a lot of words to describe Waterloo's Riverfront Stadium. "Beauty" isn't one of them.

    The second idea is to delay the start of the regular season. A number of coaches have suggested an opening date of April 1, just as the NCAA basketball tournaments go riding off into the sunset.

    It makes perfect sense, too, until you ponder the end of the slate. Assuming teams need 13 weeks to finish out a regular season and another four for the postseason, that would move the College World Series to - um, the first week of August.

    Omaha, no surprise, is not particularly crazy about that idea. Neither is the NCAA.

    "The answer, of course, is that we've got a pretty fixed event here on the back end," Tim Weiser, deputy commissioner of the Big 12 and chair of the NCAA Division I baseball committee, offered Tuesday at Rosenblatt Stadium. "We're not going to be able to do much with that."

    And there you go. The last true cold-weather school to win a College World Series was Wichita State in 1989, if you're still counting. The Big Ten hasn't placed a team at Rosenblatt since Michigan in 1984.

    The Atlantic Coast Conference, the Pac-10 and the Southeastern Conference accounted for five of the eight schools in this year's field. The leagues combined for six of the eight in 2008; four of the eight in 2007; and six of the eight in 2006. If you play where it snows in April, brother, good luck getting your ticket punched.

    "The problem is, it's still, to an extent, a regional sport," said Dave Keilitz, executive director of the American Baseball Coaches Association. "And if you don't have people around you playing it, it makes it more difficult to start it up. It makes it easier to drop it if nobody in your region has it. It's not like football, where you go play on the weekend ... the longer you've got to travel, the more expensive it's going to be."

    Money wasn't the only reason why the Panthers dropped baseball after 103 years, but it didn't help. Northern Iowa led the life of a typical small, Northern program: Spend the first four weeks of the slate on the road, touring the South or the West, trying not to get your brains beat in while eating giant holes out of your budget. Return home in late March to the cold and the nonexistent crowds that don't help your bottom line, either.

    By mid-April, when winter's finally given up the fight, you've only got a month left of games to play. No wonder there's no tradition, no fan base. No wonder Nebraska and Wichita State were the only Midwest schools to crack the top 20 in home attendance in last year.

    "I don't know if you'll ever be able to completely level the playing field," Weiser said. "The truth is, I'm not sure there is a way to completely level it."

    Weiser's committee meets next month. Considering that the NCAA collected more than $9 million in gross receipts from the '07-08 Division I baseball postseason, second only to men's basketball, don't expect someone to start rocking the boat.

  • #2
    Typical BS from a KSuck and BCS tool. There will never be a level playing field Mr. Weiner...uh...I mean Weiser, because the big boys don't want there to be a level playing field.


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    • #3
      What an a$$clown.
      Deuces Valley.
      ... No really, deuces.
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      - a smart man

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      • #4
        Re: Tim Weiser is a pus . . . you know what

        "I don't know if you'll ever be able to completely level the playing field," Weiser said. "The truth is, I'm not sure there is a way to completely level it."
        Translation: "As long as I'm sherriff in this here town, level playing field is nuttin' but a mid major wetdream...Bend over and squeel like a pig middies!"

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        • #5
          Wouldn't Oregon State be considered the last "northern" program to win the CWS.

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          • #6
            yes and no.

            the pacific NW doesn't get the freezing weather and snow like the midwest does.

            but, yes, geographically and literally speaking, Oregon State is much further north than most other champs.

            When considering disadvantages, oregon state is living large in comparison to the climatically challenged, yet further south, midwest.
            veni, vidi, vici

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            • #7
              WSU and CWS

              Also, KC, the writer referred to WSU as the last true cold-weather school to win the CWS, not the last northern school -- which is probably correct.

              OSU is a long way north of Shockerville, but the climate in Corvallis is definitely more temperate than in Wichita.

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              • #8
                It would seem like there is wiggle room for experimentation. Move things back a week at a time for a couple of years. The gradual change will be more accepting by the fans. Then measure the effects on the ML draft, overall attendance and CWS.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RoyalShock
                  It would seem like there is wiggle room for experimentation. Move things back a week at a time for a couple of years. The gradual change will be more accepting by the fans. Then measure the effects on the ML draft, overall attendance and CWS.
                  Then what would happen to the NBC World Series? There would be no more summer ball if colleges played during the summer.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ShockerGorilla
                    Originally posted by RoyalShock
                    It would seem like there is wiggle room for experimentation. Move things back a week at a time for a couple of years. The gradual change will be more accepting by the fans. Then measure the effects on the ML draft, overall attendance and CWS.
                    Then what would happen to the NBC World Series? There would be no more summer ball if colleges played during the summer.
                    It would become the CWS....

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SB Shock
                      Originally posted by ShockerGorilla
                      Originally posted by RoyalShock
                      It would seem like there is wiggle room for experimentation. Move things back a week at a time for a couple of years. The gradual change will be more accepting by the fans. Then measure the effects on the ML draft, overall attendance and CWS.
                      Then what would happen to the NBC World Series? There would be no more summer ball if colleges played during the summer.
                      It would become the CWS....
                      .....in Omaha--not here in Wichita. I always enjoy going to those games.

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                      • #12
                        Is it a BCS issue or a northern/southern thing and climate issue ? I say climate. In fact, bad weather is one factor that keeps the Big 10 from being a baseball conference. Also it was a major cause, I am guessing, of Iowa St and Colorado dropping the sport. On the flip side, its a big part of why the Long Beach Sts, Irvines, and Fullertons of the world are better programs than many BCS schools.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ICT Ragman
                          Is it a BCS issue or a northern/southern thing and climate issue ? I say climate. In fact, bad weather is one factor that keeps the Big 10 from being a baseball conference. Also it was a major cause, I am guessing, of Iowa St and Colorado dropping the sport. On the flip side, its a big part of why the Long Beach Sts, Irvines, and Fullertons of the world are better programs than many BCS schools.
                          I think it's more of a commitment issue. If you're committed, you won't let these measly little excuses keep you down.

                          Example: Gene Stephenson and Wichita State.

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                          • #14
                            Colorado and Iowa State were Title IX casualties.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KC Shox
                              Wouldn't Oregon State be considered the last "northern" program to win the CWS.
                              No. Having lived in Corvallis for several years in my youth, the winter is more like spring here; wet, cold but not freezing. I saw snow on Mary's Peak in the winter but saw snow only once or twice, if at all, in Corvallis or Albany.
                              Some posts are not visible to me. :peaceful:
                              Don't worry too much about it. Just do all you can do and let the rough end drag.

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