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Nope. The only thing that matters is they had a losing conference record, finished second to last in conference, and weren't even good enough to make their conference tourney. Rhode Island and Notre Dame should be pi$$ed that they got hosed by a Big 12 homer in Weiser.
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nope, they took 9th out of 10 teams.Originally posted by billybudComment
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BUt..on the other hand...OK State had a great OOC record of 22-6 and went 22-19 against top 100 teams....
The conference record looks really bad...but the OK State SOS and RPI was high and their OOC wins were good.Comment
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Ya think Rhode Island is a better team than the Cowboys? Would you put money on R.I. in a best of three?
If it is about putting in the best teams, I might put in OK State over Rhode Island.Comment
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I think it counts for something billybud. However, OSU didn't even make their own conf tournament.Originally posted by billybud
The RPI game can get tricky.
It forces smaller conference schools to play BSC power conferences usually as an away game, but doesn't give any incentive for BSC schools to play small conference teams. Therefore, the smaller conferences have a scheduling nightmare (ie basketball). If you're BCS, why not just play it safe and play within your own conference and a few OOC schools you know you'll beat at your own field. If I'm OSU or Baylor, I'm not playing MSU, ORU, or WSU for that matter. What's the point? Are we not starting to see that line of thinking with OU dropping the Shox from future scheduling? Who will be next???
Obviously I'm biased towards WSU and KU, but Weiser has to go.
It is what it is. The best thing to do is play the scheduling/RPI game and just win (and maybe look for membership in a stronger conference).Comment
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Early in the season, Rhode Island played OSU in Stillwater and got a split in their 2 games.Comment
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OK...I asked the chair some questions and now have some clarity...
Billy: Mr. Committee Chair, how did teams like Baylor and Oklahoma state actually make it to in the tourney?
Mr. Chair: They had outstanding RPI numbers.
Billy: Why was it that UVA was shipped out west when they could have even hosted after winning maybe the toughest baseball conference in America?
Mr. Chair: Well, they finished 6th in their league.
Billy: But they won the ACC and had one of the highest RPI numbers in the country.
Mr. Chair: RPI, huh? RPI isn't everything.
Billy: Why was FSU not the region host over Oklahoma?
Mr. Chair: Oklahoma had a higher RPI.
Billy: Yeah but FSU finished higher than Oklahoma in their conference which is the best baseball conference in the country with five of the top eleven in RPI... You didn't use RPI for UVA in the same scenario...
Mr. Chair: Next question.Comment
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They split during the regular season at the Oklahma State tournament in March.Originally posted by billybudComment
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Rhode Island just lost their last two games...to Xavier 9-7 and 10-1.
Their two games with OK State had the Cowboys with 19 runs to six for R.I. I think that the Cowboys had more firepower.
Boston College pounded them 10-0 before the mercy rule stopped the clubbing.
I am not sold on Rhode Island.Comment
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Hell no!
Count me in the "Not only no, but hell no," camp, bud. Once the NCAA includes conference champs (however crowned) as automatic entries, they're no longer part of the discussion.Originally posted by billybud
The point is simply this: when a team can't even qualify to play for its own conference tournament championship, there are NO circumstances under which it should qualify to play for the next higher tournament championship, namely the NCAA.Comment
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Re: Hell no!
I think that this same subject was brought up with the Big East in Basketball before they changed their conference tourney to include everyone.Originally posted by WSUwatcher
I agree that if you aren't good enough for conference post-season play, you damn sure aren't good enough for NCAA post season play.Comment
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Re: Hell no!
:good:Originally posted by rrshock
Whatever happened to good old fashioned common sense?Comment
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Rhode Island plays in a terrible conference and did not even win that conference's regular season. They lost a series to RPI 184 UMass and split 2 games with RPI 177 St. Louis before dropping two games to Xavier in their conference tournament.
Missouri State has a better case than Rhode Island.Comment
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I wonder how Rhode Island would have done in the Big 12?
They really didn't look all that good against a team that didn't make the Big 12 tourney (lost 14-2 and won 5-4).
I have always felt that teams with strong SOS's have a reverse risk. Wins, even over far weaker teams, count for so much more than a close loss against a top team. OK State did beat far more top 100 teams than RI...but they didn't make their tournament.
It's all good...I'm just not into RI .Comment
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They could solve the problem of who got left out by letting everyone in the tournament. What would it take, a couple of more weeks? And they have all summer to finish the tournament anyway. ;-)
This reminds me of this video link that was in one of the basketball threads.
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